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Old 01-15-2013, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
I'd also like to know that. We're getting more of these preferential deals than I can keep track of.

Maybe it would be easier to ask if there's anybody out there who doesn't have some special claim on a slot at Delta.

Seems like the first few years of new hire classes are already filled.
Now I could complain about this! The degree requriement doesn't bother me. Virtually nobody will get to Delta in the next 5 years unless you are at Compass or Pinnacle. It will also reduce the number of Mil guys we can take to fill the quotas that these flows have. I've got buddies at other regionals that are very qualified that only want to work at Delta....told them it may be awhile till we get all the Compass and Pinnacle guys on the list.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
It is going to be interesting to see the Air Force Academy Captains dealing with some of their new hire FO's who decided against pursuing an education beyond high school and who have absolutely no idea of how the Air Force runs a flight deck.
Speaking of which - please take a video of the Captains reaction when the FO proudly states he "went to THE Academy".

That's right - the Delta Connection Academy. Had more than one say "THE academy" to me.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:28 AM
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Probably no different than friends of mine at SWA who spent years at regionals and now babysit academy grads with their first real civilian job. It goes both ways my friend.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by PBSG
Speaking of which - please take a video of the Captains reaction when the FO proudly states he "went to THE Academy".

That's right - the Delta Connection Academy. Had more than one say "THE academy" to me.


In that case, I went to .... Starfleet Academy .... so top that!
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
I'm not sure why we are all bent out of shape over this deal. What if Delta decided to drop the degree from the requirements for everybody? Do they need DALPA to sign off on that? Would we all be up in arms over Delta hiring pilots with no degrees at that point?
No "dog in the fight", and it's not quite the same thing, but just sayin'......

Along the lines of your point above. When Western was acquired, as well as the merge with NW happened, did DALALPA get tell management "don't take on the pilots without a 4 year degree".

Like I said, I know it's slightly different, but the point remains.

And YES, I'm all for the 4 year degree, and YES, I GET IT, it's a DAL requirement. But pitting pilots against each other in various stealthy ways seems to be management's specialty. And pilots fall for it, EVERY time.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Oh crap, know were going too grade each others' posts?
Originally Posted by Delta1067
I think that was all intentional. The know, were, too, & others'.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
What's the total number of pilots with special rights, anyway?
The whole list as long as the pilot held a captain position. So in theory all of the captains go, then first officers upgrade and then they are eligible for the process.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:33 PM
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wow 9 pages on such a simple topic......so a guy doesn't have a degree, he gets interviewed. Interviewed does not equal job offer. So calm down, your new FO's will most likely have a liberal arts degree, making them better pilots.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by PBSG
Speaking of which - please take a video of the Captains reaction when the FO proudly states he "went to THE Academy".

That's right - the Delta Connection Academy. Had more than one say "THE academy" to me.
Formerly known as Comair Aviation Academy...
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Fair enough... at the end of the day a college degree a pilot does not make.

It's what they have in their hearts and soul, is what makes the airman.

It's how they've acquired their flying experience is an important asset they will bring to any company be it DAL, UAL, or AA, as well as the cockpit and fellow colleagues.

Its their legacy they will impart to new first officers too.

IMHO, with some 35+ years experience with both US and foreign carriers, a 4 year degree a senior aircraft commander does not make. Its merely a tick in the company's options of requirements box.

Safe flight... capt
Why stop at a bachelor's degree? Should graduation from high school be a requirement as well? It's not required for an ATP. All that counts is the flight experience, right?

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, unemployment is half as high for college graduates as for high school graduates; college grads earn more, typically receiving a return on their college investment after only four years.

Why a College Degree? - Forbes

Delta can hire anyone it wants to, it sets the bar as high or as low as it feels comfortable with. Typically, though, they've set expectations pretty high.
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