GED = Good Enough for Delta
01-17-2013, 04:48 PM
#252
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Refer to Comair Concessions / DCI Fleet Reshuffling in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2010, and 2012.
01-17-2013, 04:52 PM
#253
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The 40 additional 900s were a given if/when Pinnacle survives as a Delta W/O subsidiary.
Semantics, and I'm probably wrong.
01-17-2013, 04:54 PM
#254
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Can I just say something? As ALPA pilots we choose to outsource 50% percent of our flying, then get mad if some on the "other side" doesn't have a degree?
"It's ok if they are over there, not over here"
High horses caused this mess.
"It's ok if they are over there, not over here"
High horses caused this mess.
01-17-2013, 04:58 PM
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01-17-2013, 05:12 PM
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It has little to do with stick and rudder skills. It's more about motivation, dedication, leadership, & desire to succeed. Those that are driven to get the degree show more motivation then those who don't. They show that they possess the ability to learn, listen, & follow instructions. They can excel in areas outside of the flight deck.
As to your jabs at those individuals involved in unfortunate situations, you may want to tread lightly. Karma can be a mean beast. Try to show a little class.
As to your jabs at those individuals involved in unfortunate situations, you may want to tread lightly. Karma can be a mean beast. Try to show a little class.
01-17-2013, 05:18 PM
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Slightly off topic and geared to no one on this thread in particular, but judging by the use of English and grammar on APC as a whole, one may be tempted to believe that the vast majority of airline pilots lack any type of college degree.
01-17-2013, 05:23 PM
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While I was not satisfied with the contract put in front of me and voted accordingly, this game is far from over. We were told a substantial amount of our list would be gone when the Saabs left as well, it didn't happen. All we can do is speculate about the future, we can't change what has happened.
01-17-2013, 05:35 PM
#259
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True but you guys picked up a few NWA guys without degrees too. I worked with one. Great pilot very good mechanic before he got a pilot slot. Was a DC-9 capt before 9/11. I believe he is back in a capt seat now. But generally I agree with you. I guess in the case of the guy I know he brings things to the table that other pilots lack so in that he does not have a degree he does have a knowledge of airplanes and systems having been a line A@P for years that maybe makes up for it.
01-17-2013, 05:36 PM
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Imapilot,
I understand what your saying about those that get a break when you didnt thats fair. However to compare us to the Gulfstream image is not. There was a small percentage that was hired maybe 10% not sure exactly but certainly not the majority. That being said, everyone I have flown with from Gulfstream was a good pilot. You see there you go generalizing again!
I understand what your saying about those that get a break when you didnt thats fair. However to compare us to the Gulfstream image is not. There was a small percentage that was hired maybe 10% not sure exactly but certainly not the majority. That being said, everyone I have flown with from Gulfstream was a good pilot. You see there you go generalizing again!
Although I made no reference to what makes a good pilot. I don't hire pilots Delta does but.....my opinion, which is mostly all this board is, is that without the degree=no interview. Like others have said, change it for ALL OR NONE. My idea would be to keep it. There must be a way to whittle 10000 applications down to a few thousand to interview. This piece of criteria does a good job at narrowing the field to those willing to go the extra mile. Just like the atp type test questions at the interview. Are you really going to need to know what type aspect ratio a certain type of plane has? No but they know people that research the interview are aware of those types of questions. Those that take extra time to study a huge bank of questions score higher amongst the others. Same difference just to a greater degree. They check everyone's background and training but to get to know a person you want to hire for decades in just a few hours what else do you have to go on?
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