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01-17-2013, 01:56 PM

#231

TeddyKGB

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnso29

That was before his time.

Wasn't sure but it doesn't change the fact that his post about TW screwing over ASA, and, his follow up 3 points as to why, have no merit and he doesn't know what he is talking about.

01-17-2013, 01:58 PM

#232

fatsopilot

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Originally Posted by block30

I am surprised at the anger/frustration generated over whether someone has a college degree or not.

I think the anger/frustration comes more from the back room deals and dishonest manner in which this is all being handled. There is a hidden letter somewhere and you have to call TW to personally talk to him about it? What else is going on behind the scenes that the due paying members are not privy to? The Union honestly believes this will not lower the regional industry bar in the race to the bottom?

01-17-2013, 02:00 PM

#233

JungleBus

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Originally Posted by fatsopilot

bingo.

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01-17-2013, 02:40 PM

#234

Bucking Bar

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Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta1067

Wasn't sure but it doesn't change the fact that his post about TW screwing over ASA, and, his follow up 3 points as to why, have no merit and he doesn't know what he is talking about.

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

Personal vendetta much, 1067?

Jungle Bus took him to school. Saw nothing to add to Jungle Bus' well written post.

01-17-2013, 02:49 PM

#235

Kellwolf

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Position: A320 FO

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Originally Posted by JungleBus

Even under the T/A, 3/4 of the 9E pilots will lose their jobs. 85% did not vote yes for the benefit of the senior 1/4. They voted yes for the bridge agreement, which went away if they voted no. The bridge agreement was a very necessary carrot for Pinnacle to set a new low in small jet pay. Your job was commoditized as a tool of pilot wage repression.

Some of my friends that are "yes" voters didn't even vote "yes" because of the bridge agreement. They voted "yes" for the cash payout that's coming in a few months that will hopefully help them get through a couple of months while they look for another job. Some voted "yes" because they think they'll get the 3 months of furlough pay, but I'm skeptical of that happening. They way Pinnacle has been talking, they don't expect to furlough soon, and planes won't start getting parked for a while. The 3 months is only if you're furloughed in 2013. I could totally see Pinnacle running fat for a couple of months at the end of 2013 to avoide paying out the 3 months. They'll still get 1 month if they're furloughed in Jan 2014. There were more carrots in this TA than in a garden....

01-17-2013, 02:50 PM

#236

TeddyKGB

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Jungle Bus took him to school. Saw nothing to add to Jungle Bus' well written post.

I figured you would dodge my point. 9E didn't take paycuts in order to get growth or a bridge. Thats the bottom line and you make it sound otherwise. Good day.

01-17-2013, 02:58 PM

#237

Bucking Bar

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Originally Posted by Delta1067

I figured you would dodge my point. 9E didn't take paycuts in order to get growth or a bridge. Thats the bottom line and you make it sound otherwise. Good day.

How would you define the quid pro quo? What was the exchange given for the 25% regressive pay cut?

01-17-2013, 03:04 PM

#238

TeddyKGB

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

How would you define the quid pro quo? What was the exchange given for the 25% regressive pay cut?

Bar, the paycuts were coming regardless or they were shutting the doors. There backs were pretty much up against the wall. It was a crap sandwich and they took the best they could do. For you to suggest that they sold out in order to get growth or a bridge is complete nonsense on your part. Thats the only point I was trying to make.

01-17-2013, 03:08 PM

#239

Bucking Bar

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta1067

If that was the point you were trying to make, then why did you post this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta1067

Wasn't sure but it doesn't change the fact that his post about TW screwing over ASA, and, his follow up 3 points as to why, have no merit and he doesn't know what he is talking about.

You might have a good point in there, but your point tends to get buried in your invective.

01-17-2013, 03:17 PM

#240

TeddyKGB

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

If that was the point you were trying to make, then why did you post this?You might have a good point in there, but your point tends to get buried in your invective.

I would hardly say that it was invective. It was my opinion that you had no clue what you were talking about by saying that "TW screwed over ASA....blah blah blah". If you found that harsh or insulting well that was not my intent. Heck....the majority of this entire forum is "invective" if we go by your terms. Perhaps you just don't like it when someone disagrees with you Bar.