GED = Good Enough for Delta
01-17-2013, 07:36 AM
#202
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,731
Well, that and, "Clear right, I'll have the chicken" but that was before they took all the meals off domestic flights!
Best advice I ever got as a F/E was from our new hire systems instructor, he said, "When, not if, you fk up the panel, and the Capt. turns around and says, 'W. T. F. are you doing??' your reply is;
Sorry Sir, I was thinking about puszy..."
He said that would get you out of just about any screw up you'd caused, and it did.
01-17-2013, 07:58 AM
#203
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: 7er
Posts: 1,673
If he is such a stand up guy, why did he make an end run around the Delta MEC? Why did he screw the other DCI pilots? After all, they supported him. Here is a photo of the ASA MEC Chair walking Wychor's line.
The ASA pilots supported Pinnacle.
Wonder how he feels about that now ?
The ASA pilots supported Pinnacle.
Wonder how he feels about that now ?
01-17-2013, 08:00 AM
#204
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: Captain
Posts: 129
Imapilot,
I understand what your saying about those that get a break when you didnt thats fair. However to compare us to the Gulfstream image is not. There was a small percentage that was hired maybe 10% not sure exactly but certainly not the majority. That being said, everyone I have flown with from Gulfstream was a good pilot. You see there you go generalizing again!
I understand what your saying about those that get a break when you didnt thats fair. However to compare us to the Gulfstream image is not. There was a small percentage that was hired maybe 10% not sure exactly but certainly not the majority. That being said, everyone I have flown with from Gulfstream was a good pilot. You see there you go generalizing again!
01-17-2013, 08:03 AM
#205
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2009
Position: C560XL/XLS/XLS+
Posts: 1,278
Well, that and, "Clear right, I'll have the chicken" but that was before they took all the meals off domestic flights!
Best advice I ever got as a F/E was from our new hire systems instructor, he said, "When, not if, you fk up the panel, and the Capt. turns around and says, 'W. T. F. are you doing??' your reply is;
Sorry Sir, I was thinking about puszy..."
He said that would get you out of just about any screw up you'd caused, and it did.
Best advice I ever got as a F/E was from our new hire systems instructor, he said, "When, not if, you fk up the panel, and the Capt. turns around and says, 'W. T. F. are you doing??' your reply is;
Sorry Sir, I was thinking about puszy..."
He said that would get you out of just about any screw up you'd caused, and it did.
01-17-2013, 08:17 AM
#207
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,037
Here you go.
(1) Pinnacle secured "committed" aircraft from the limited number available for DCI carriers.
(2) They did this through the use of pay cuts
(3) To remain competitive it is likely that the other DCI carriers will be forced into concessionary bargaining.
This is the biggest point I believe people are missing about this deal. All our pilot issues aside (and they are important issues) this Pinnacle deal was a huge win and cost saving deal for Delta. If I am not mistaken dont most of our new contracts with the regionals have a provision in them that they (regionals) have to be among the bottom 2 or 3 lowest in pay? If thats the case then with Gojets and Pinnacle being rock bottom in prices that will force the costs down at ASA and Skywest too. This was a brilliant deal by Delta as a back door way to force down costs.
(2) They did this through the use of pay cuts
(3) To remain competitive it is likely that the other DCI carriers will be forced into concessionary bargaining.
01-17-2013, 08:22 AM
#208
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 5,026
His point is every major accident in the last 10 years has involved a former Gulfstream pilot. We can all fly. Some of us make better decisions than others. I am actually proud to be a Delta pilot. I take pride in knowing that almost all of my co-workers are educated. I want to see the hiring standards raised if anything. Lowering standards leads to lower pay long term.
01-17-2013, 09:12 AM
#209
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Captain
Posts: 464
I am proud to be a Pinnacle pilot and the experience I have had here over the last 13 years. There is not a pilot group out there that doesnt have issues at times, yes even Delta Pilots. Your definition of an educated pilot is not his experience but the piece of paper you hold so dearly. I could care less if this degree is waived or not but it does not define who I am as a Captain/Check Airmen/Sim Instructor or co-worker.
Being a professional is an important part of being a good Airline Pilot but I guess all you need is that degree!
Being a professional is an important part of being a good Airline Pilot but I guess all you need is that degree!
01-17-2013, 09:29 AM
#210
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 5,026
I am proud to be a Pinnacle pilot and the experience I have had here over the last 13 years. There is not a pilot group out there that doesnt have issues at times, yes even Delta Pilots. Your definition of an educated pilot is not his experience but the piece of paper you hold so dearly. I could care less if this degree is waived or not but it does not define who I am as a Captain/Check Airmen/Sim Instructor or co-worker.
Being a professional is an important part of being a good Airline Pilot but I guess all you need is that degree!
Being a professional is an important part of being a good Airline Pilot but I guess all you need is that degree!
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