American Eagle pilot removed in MSP
01-05-2013, 07:25 AM
#23
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"We" didn't do it.
Companies can attempt to have any sort of behavior control policies they want, but the FAA rule is based on being free from the effects after 8 hours (which is a reasonable assumption in the case of light casual drinking).
If the FAA were to extend the rule they would be getting into behavior control...AOPA at least would never sit still for that
01-05-2013, 07:34 AM
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They (cops) always let them board the aircraft. Contrary to popular belief around here is there is NO law in any state against being drunk at an airport, being drunk in uniform, or coming to work drunk.
The law says you can't operate (or in many places "control" or "possess") a vehicle. More than one allegedly drunk pilot got off the hook, after being confronted at security, by claiming they had to come to airport to use the ops phone to call in sick and then nonrev home, or somesuch. The cops assigned to the airports wised up. TSA is in on it too, even though any smurf worth his salt is drooling and about to piddle himself at the prospect of collaring a drunk pilot, they all know they have to keep a straight face and call the cops after you head to the gate.
01-05-2013, 07:39 AM
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Mouthwash might get you off the legal hook (if you can pass a blood test), but it won't help with the DOT test...if you blow, it counts. You can't have alcohol in your system for any reason, even on your breath.
I don't think the DOT program even uses a blood test, I think they just go with the breathalyzer?
01-05-2013, 08:51 AM
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They (cops) always let them board the aircraft. Contrary to popular belief around here is there is NO law in any state against being drunk at an airport, being drunk in uniform, or coming to work drunk.
The law says you can't operate (or in many places "control" or "possess") a vehicle. More than one allegedly drunk pilot got off the hook, after being confronted at security, by claiming they had to come to airport to use the ops phone to call in sick and then nonrev home, or somesuch. The cops assigned to the airports wised up. TSA is in on it too, even though any smurf worth his salt is drooling and about to piddle himself at the prospect of collaring a drunk pilot, they all know they have to keep a straight face and call the cops after you head to the gate.
The law says you can't operate (or in many places "control" or "possess") a vehicle. More than one allegedly drunk pilot got off the hook, after being confronted at security, by claiming they had to come to airport to use the ops phone to call in sick and then nonrev home, or somesuch. The cops assigned to the airports wised up. TSA is in on it too, even though any smurf worth his salt is drooling and about to piddle himself at the prospect of collaring a drunk pilot, they all know they have to keep a straight face and call the cops after you head to the gate.
01-05-2013, 09:00 AM
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01-05-2013, 09:04 AM
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Mouthwash might get you off the legal hook (if you can pass a blood test), but it won't help with the DOT test...if you blow, it counts. You can't have alcohol in your system for any reason, even on your breath.
I don't think the DOT program even uses a blood test, I think they just go with the breathalyzer?
I don't think the DOT program even uses a blood test, I think they just go with the breathalyzer?
01-05-2013, 09:49 AM
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That's normal for DUI, basically a follow up to confirm and strengthen the case in addition to breathalyzer and field sobriety assessments. It's not part of the DOT program.
If you blow positive due to mouthwash on a DOT test, game over as far as 121 goes.
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