American Eagle pilot removed in MSP
#131
You may not "think" you are under the influence, but the information is out there and it's not like it's hidden. Nearly every state now makes you go through some sort of drunk driving awareness during the renewal/knowledge test. You can decide not to believe it, but that would be a conscious decision IMO and brings into question their ability to make decisions about anything.
It's a disease, sure, but so is schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, eating disorders, heart disease, and a myriad of others that also include denial as a symptom/effect. We don't hate these people because they have a disease, but we realize the inherent risks and effects on character, physiological state and mental capacity/processing.
#132
I'll check that one out, too.
Btw, that's "how it works" for me!!!!!
atp
#133
Yes I know, I was being a smartass.
#135
This subject piqued my interest so I referenced Amazon.com "Flying Drunk" by Joe Balzer. In the reviews section, one of the "one stars" came from Lyle Prouse, the CA of the NWA flight they document. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess these two don't like each other.
#136
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
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#137
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This subject piqued my interest so I referenced Amazon.com "Flying Drunk" by Joe Balzer. In the reviews section, one of the "one stars" came from Lyle Prouse, the CA of the NWA flight they document. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess these two don't like each other.
Lyle had it rough, he prides himself on not making a plea deal, paying his debt to society and acknowledges the grace that put him back into the cockpit. Lyle was also rather proud of the time he spent in the Chief Pilot's office prior to the famous flight.
Joe seems to have had it much harder with the legal system and describes Lyle as a difficult, "old style" Captain. From what I have read, Joe seems to be much more at peace and living a "sober" lifestyle than Lyle.
Just my opinion. If it isn't obvious, I'm also in the program (through an intervention).
#138
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
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I need to read Joe's book. Lyle Prouse also wrote a book, titled "Final Approach". It's a great story about redemption. When you finish, you want to meet his wife and shake her hand. She sounds like an amazing woman. In this book, Lyle doesn't blame anyone but himself, ever. And I don't know how you can have it much more difficult with the legal system than he did. He did his time in a hard core federal pen.
#139
Straight QOL, homie
Joined APC: Feb 2012
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Multiple studies indicate that fatigued individuals perform on a level with one who's under the influence of alcohol.
I'm waiting for some TSA goober to try to have pilots arrested because they look too tired.
I'm waiting for some TSA goober to try to have pilots arrested because they look too tired.
#140
TSA powers....
You might just be on to something here......This would tie in nicely with the new rest/fatigue rules around the corner....by the way, whats the latest there? havent heard much about the new rest requirements for a while....
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