Eagle to hire 600+ in 2013!
#901
Interesting post, but it is not just Eagle that is hiring such minor percentages of the total pilot interview applicants they bring in for an interview. ExpressJet, Great Lakes, and Republic are a few others that I personally know are doing the same kind of thing, skimming off a few golden faces from any given pilot interview group. You could say they just don't get it, that staffing disasters are imminent as a result of their failure to recruit enough new faces, the up and coming pilot training pipeline is dry, etc. but I suspect they do get it, the pilot pipeline is not a lot less than it ever was, they are not failing to hire enough people for their projected needs, and there is no staffing disaster coming anywhere at any regional anytime soon, period. They know what they are doing. At least it looks that way to me and they are all acting about the same way- it is business as usual in airline pilot hiring trends. Minor differences at best. They are hiring what they need. Pilots desperate to hear of a magical shortage is what is really going on.
#902
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
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Interesting post, but it is not just Eagle that is hiring such minor percentages of the total pilot interview applicants they bring in for an interview. ExpressJet, Great Lakes, and Republic are a few others that I personally know are doing the same kind of thing, skimming off a few golden faces from any given pilot interview group. You could say they just don't get it, that staffing disasters are imminent as a result of their failure to recruit enough new faces, the up and coming pilot training pipeline is dry, etc. but I suspect they do get it, the pilot pipeline is not a lot less than it ever was, they are not failing to hire enough people for their projected needs, and there is no staffing disaster coming anywhere at any regional anytime soon, period. They know what they are doing. At least it looks that way to me and they are all acting about the same way- it is business as usual in airline pilot hiring trends. Minor differences at best. They are hiring what they need. Pilots desperate to hear of a magical shortage is what is really going on.
I know it's not just Eagle, hence my statement the regional INDUSTRY is ****ed. At any rate, it was the very people you claim are in full control of their business destiny that represented both the need and the ability to hire 600 at Eagle in 2013, yet have only been able to attract a fraction of those representations. It was these very people who have added thousands of dollars of incentives, first in ca$h and now in seniority, health care and travel bennies. I'm sorry, but I think either you're in the airline management damage control business or are in denial. You'll note I forcast disaster for this segment of the industry as opposed to just this particular carrier, which may be one if the survivors albeit substantially smaller then present.
As new 76-seaters filter in to the U.S. from Brazil and Canada, they'll have to park a larger number of smaller RJ's. Overall, the regionals will have to contract as they cannot provide the fleet count resources to serve the present domestic market. A smaller number of larger RJ's will result in many markets either abandoned or reassigned to mainline where many of those markets existed 10-15 years ago. Delta gets it best as they are shifting more regional flying back to mainline and the 50-seater for 717 idea, but UAL and likely AA not so much. The global network that identifies and is proactive to deal with this now will capitalize on most market share and those who don't will be stuck in a reactive role and competitively, that's not the best strategy.
Last edited by eaglefly; 06-03-2013 at 06:28 PM.
#903
...I know it's not just Eagle, hence my statement the regional INDUSTRY is [hosed (?)]. At any rate, it was the very people you claim are in full control of their business destiny that represented both the need and the ability to hire 600 at Eagle in 2013, yet have only been able to attract a fraction of those representations. It was these very people who have added thousands of dollars of incentives, first in ca$h and now in seniority, health care and travel bennies...
...I'm sorry, but I think either you're in the airline management damage control business...
... or are in denial. You'll note I forecast disaster for this segment of the industry as opposed to just this particular carrier, which may be one if the survivors albeit substantially smaller then present.
Last edited by Cubdriver; 06-03-2013 at 06:50 PM.
#904
Interesting post, but it is not just Eagle that is hiring such minor percentages of the total pilot interview applicants they bring in for an interview. ExpressJet, Great Lakes, and Republic are a few others that I personally know are doing the same kind of thing, skimming off a few golden faces from any given pilot interview group. You could say they just don't get it, that staffing disasters are imminent as a result of their failure to recruit enough new faces, the up and coming pilot training pipeline is dry, etc. but I suspect they do get it, the pilot pipeline is not a lot less than it ever was, they are not failing to hire enough people for their projected needs, and there is no staffing disaster coming anywhere at any regional anytime soon, period. They know what they are doing. At least it looks that way to me and they are all acting about the same way- it is business as usual in airline pilot hiring trends. Minor differences at best. They are hiring what they need. Pilots desperate to hear of a magical shortage is what is really going on.
#905
That's not true in my recent experience, not true at all. RAH hired only a few (if any) out of a group of 6 I was with recently. They did not even bother making me an offer despite my meeting all their requirements. They are not having trouble with their pilot supply over at RAH, they are having trouble finding cheap pilots to meet their low cost of training goals. Lots of pilots are showing up, but not as many cheap ones as they desire. They know who is likely to cost them some money, and they send those pilots home. No shortage.
#906
That's not true in my recent experience, not true at all. RAH hired only a few (if any) out of a group of 6 I was with recently. They did not even bother making me an offer despite my meeting all their requirements. They are not having trouble with their pilot supply over at RAH, they are having trouble finding cheap pilots to meet their low cost of training goals. Lots of pilots are showing up, but not as many cheap ones as they desire. They know who is likely to cost them some money, and they send those pilots home. No shortage.
#907
So a shortage of qualified, trainable pilots is not a shortage? They recently hired a guy with a felony on his record and another got an offer who geared one up instructing. And why didnt they make u an offer? Im not clear on yur point. I presume its training failures theyre trying to avoid. Btw it used to be 20 at an interview.
#908
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Joined APC: Jun 2011
Posts: 13
So a shortage of qualified, trainable pilots is not a shortage? They recently hired a guy with a felony on his record and another got an offer who geared one up instructing. And why didnt they make u an offer? Im not clear on yur point. I presume its training failures theyre trying to avoid. Btw it used to be 20 at an interview.
I'm more curious as to how hard/easy our interview process is. I've asked some of our guys that help out and I've heard both sides argued.
#909
That's not true in my recent experience, not true at all. RAH hired only a few (if any) out of a group of 6 I was with recently. They did not even bother making me an offer despite my meeting all their requirements. They are not having trouble with their pilot supply over at RAH, they are having trouble finding cheap pilots to meet their low cost of training goals. Lots of pilots are showing up, but not as many cheap ones as they desire. They know who is likely to cost them some money, and they send those pilots home. No shortage.
It seems that they didn't offer you the job because, either your attitude or you had something non disclosed in your record. It seems you are bitter about it since they didn't event bother to give you an offer.
#910
Correct, everyone in my interview group had all these bank robberies to report, poor attitude at the interview, low credit scores, poor sim evals and so forth. You got it. I am sure that was all it was- just a bunch of rejects, people who are useless for any aviation-related purpose. Most of the pilots they interview are in that class for some reason though. That was it.
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