eaglefly

Last I heard, ALPA gave away those transfer rights when they exchanged that for additional AA hiring slots as part of an arbitration settlement. Furlough protection only protects about 2100 pilots and of course, if they need less they can just shrink at the rate of attrition never furloughing. As it stands now, if you still had the transfer rights your previous scope provided, those new RAH E-175's would have to be flown by Eagle pilots and now they will not. There will be some fleet replacement and they'll need some bubble pilots for that, but I think Eagles desire for pilots is simply their effort to get as many as they can from a very limited supply. Their bonus bribe money might sucker a few over, but the reality is that ALL the regionals will have a VERY hard time finding pilots for the right seats of RJ's in the coming years as its considered a dead-end, stepping stone job with far too little payoff for the $$$ invested to get there.

Most high school seniors and college kids nowadays who might like to fly, have put the career (if you could call it that anymore) of "airline pilot" at the bottom of their list. Fewer and fewer are going into aviation programs and the dry pipeline of today will be a dust bowl in 2-4 years just when all these new larger RJ's are showing up en masse. Going back to lower minimums and/or feeble heavily taxed signing bribes won't change anything. The only thing that will bring back people into this profession is to make it a career again. Carriers like Eagle, RAH and others will have major financial issues in the near future because they will not be able to provide the product they are being asked to due to the laws of supply and demand and their refusal to make it economically attractive for this type of skilled worker. If they can't provide the product, they won't obtain the necessary revenue and be financially strong. I will enjoy watching these business idiots screw themselves over in the coming years, suffering the wounds of their own short-sidedness. It's too late now, as to solve next years problem, they would have had to act 3 years ago and to solve 2017's problem, they'd have to act aggressively today and they are not.

I think many of those future 76-seaters will go straight from Brazil or Montreal to Arizona because they won't have enough F/O's to fly them and I will laugh. This is a comedy I'm looking forward to. Until they realize they've gone too far in financially decimating this profession and act aggressively to reverse that, they'll never solve the coming disaster. The laws of supply and demand will soon teach a harsh lesson to the tight-fisted fatcats and short-sighted bean-counters and regional carriers will be in dire straits. That may be one-reason Group 1 aircraft are so prominent in AA's plans, at least on contractual paper.

Got my super-size sody pop and big bag of tater chips ready and expect a great show. The coming attractions and three-stooges shorts are already playing and the main attraction will start shortly. It will leave me in stitches.

RyanP

Attrition is really that high. Actually it's been higher, averaging closer to 25/month. I don't take their word for it. I have the dated seniority lists saved on my computer and have done the math myself. A lot of the attrition is not Captains, but the numbers are accurate.

We only currently have 3001 on the seniority list as of 1/21/13, not 3200.

Another thing to consider that many people don't think about is MANY of those 3001 are not even active pilots.

268 are Inactive (Military Leave, Long term Sick Leave of absence, Disibility, Long term Leave of absence, Union Leave, etc..)

81 are working in the training center

28 are in management

That is 377 pilots on our seniority list that aren't flying the line.

So really we have only 2,624 active pilots. About 40 of those are new hires and not even qualified yet. Many more are always in long term training. Just something to think about when trying to calculate actual staffing..

Spoiler

But the beaten down pilots are ready to accept blame for disparaging the company publically and scaring of potential applicants.

snippercr

I laugh when I hear people keep claiming we are a 3200 pilot group.

N927EV

Not trying to scare appilicants, I'm just being honest. That's what's really going on here. But, any regional you look at has its own share of problems on the horizon. I.e, Skywest and ExpressJet may start losing RJs from delta, republic has a subpar contract and the threat of a strike, etc.

Ultralight

I think someone in the know either needs to confirm this rumor, or shoot it down. Why would anyone apply now for $5k when there is a chance that could double in the near future?

buddies8

Seniority.

Ultralight

Could someone on here please answer the following questions. I don't have a myface page, so can't ask a recruiter directly.

1) Does Eagle provide new hires with uniforms?

2) Do new hires get typed in the aircraft?

3) Is there any chance of a new hire getting DFW based? If not right out of training, when?

4) Is there a min day credit? What is it?

5) What is the 401k match, if any?

6) How long before you qualify for health insurance?

7) What are the current and projected upgrade times?

Thanks in advance.

RomeoSierra

Projected upgrade time is impossible to predict. To many variables

flysooner9

I heard the last class all got DFW.

You do get typed in the aircraft now.

No min day

Upgrade is around 7 Ish years but should be decreasing.