Eagle to hire 600+ in 2013!
12-12-2013, 07:09 PM
#1601
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Position: ERJ-170 CA
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For the record, the most junior captain on that type is a 7yr captain, with the majority of junior CAs on the E170/E175 being in the 9+ range at this point
12-12-2013, 07:46 PM
#1602
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From the APA SCOPE Committee
Many of you have seen the recent announcement by the corporation regarding the purchase order for 90 new 76-seat aircraft. Although this order has aircraft that are allowed under the current Scope Clause and appears to be in compliance with the restriction on these types of aircraft, APA has made it known to the "New American Airlines" that we are ready to resume talks for APA flying the E175 aircraft at the mainline. By bringing the E175 to the mainline, AAL will help bring our fellow pilots flying at the regionals to the mainline in a more expeditious manner. The pilot shortage is coming, and AAL has in its hands the ability to get ahead of the industry and secure a pilot force while the other airlines will lack the ability to man their regional feed as those pilots start to leave in droves for the majors.
Reasons for the flying to come to the mainline:
Pilot shortage
Ability to up-gauge A/C to >86k lbs and add seats
EMB Gen 2 E jets will add seats and weight
One-time hire for the mainline reduces churn and enhances pilot progression
Forward-looking has ability to lock up pilot stream
Keep it attractive to sustain the flow of pilots
More flexibility for AAL more seats on same a/c, APA flown
Goodwill building airline of the future
Get ahead of the industry in the present instead of playing catch-up later
CASM reduction revenue generator, more seats on same a/c
12-12-2013, 09:05 PM
#1603
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Posts: 1,648
Maybe this might help you to open your eyes about the "pipe dream". If APA and ALPA gets into an agreement with AAG then we might see some of the things happening...
From the APA SCOPE Committee
Many of you have seen the recent announcement by the corporation regarding the purchase order for 90 new 76-seat aircraft. Although this order has aircraft that are allowed under the current Scope Clause and appears to be in compliance with the restriction on these types of aircraft, APA has made it known to the "New American Airlines" that we are ready to resume talks for APA flying the E175 aircraft at the mainline. By bringing the E175 to the mainline, AAL will help bring our fellow pilots flying at the regionals to the mainline in a more expeditious manner. The pilot shortage is coming, and AAL has in its hands the ability to get ahead of the industry and secure a pilot force while the other airlines will lack the ability to man their regional feed as those pilots start to leave in droves for the majors.
Reasons for the flying to come to the mainline:
Pilot shortage
Ability to up-gauge A/C to >86k lbs and add seats
EMB Gen 2 E jets will add seats and weight
One-time hire for the mainline reduces churn and enhances pilot progression
Forward-looking has ability to lock up pilot stream
Keep it attractive to sustain the flow of pilots
More flexibility for AAL more seats on same a/c, APA flown
Goodwill building airline of the future
Get ahead of the industry in the present instead of playing catch-up later
CASM reduction revenue generator, more seats on same a/c
From the APA SCOPE Committee
Many of you have seen the recent announcement by the corporation regarding the purchase order for 90 new 76-seat aircraft. Although this order has aircraft that are allowed under the current Scope Clause and appears to be in compliance with the restriction on these types of aircraft, APA has made it known to the "New American Airlines" that we are ready to resume talks for APA flying the E175 aircraft at the mainline. By bringing the E175 to the mainline, AAL will help bring our fellow pilots flying at the regionals to the mainline in a more expeditious manner. The pilot shortage is coming, and AAL has in its hands the ability to get ahead of the industry and secure a pilot force while the other airlines will lack the ability to man their regional feed as those pilots start to leave in droves for the majors.
Reasons for the flying to come to the mainline:
Pilot shortage
Ability to up-gauge A/C to >86k lbs and add seats
EMB Gen 2 E jets will add seats and weight
One-time hire for the mainline reduces churn and enhances pilot progression
Forward-looking has ability to lock up pilot stream
Keep it attractive to sustain the flow of pilots
More flexibility for AAL more seats on same a/c, APA flown
Goodwill building airline of the future
Get ahead of the industry in the present instead of playing catch-up later
CASM reduction revenue generator, more seats on same a/c
Not to mention RAH is already flying 170s for AA, what are they doing about those aircraft? Why don't we just expand this insane rumor to include the RAH pilots. Eagle, RAH, and PSA all getting absorbed into AA, you heard it here first!
12-13-2013, 03:01 AM
#1604
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Position: Reclined
Posts: 2,168
There is more, but that will only happen post SLI with Airways.
12-13-2013, 05:15 AM
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Posts: 1,648
Considering US Air and Anerica West never did integrate and now we're adding the pilot group who famously stapled TWA to the bottom of their list I'm a bit skeptical a SLI will ever get done. DUI Douggie loves labor strife, helps him keeps his costs low.
12-13-2013, 05:16 AM
#1606
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Position: French-Canadian
Posts: 2,101
Since this has happened there is laws to cover how to merge lists, also there is an MOU that dictates a certain timeline, if they don't comply then they can kiss many of the benefits goodbye!
12-13-2013, 10:01 AM
#1607
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Position: Former Airline Captain
Posts: 48
FO jacket
Thread Hijack...sorry!
If any Eagle FOs need a men's size 40R jacket (used less than a year), pm me and I can send it your way. Reimburse me for shipping and it's yours.
If any Eagle FOs need a men's size 40R jacket (used less than a year), pm me and I can send it your way. Reimburse me for shipping and it's yours.
12-13-2013, 07:58 PM
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From the APA SCOPE Committee
Many of you have seen the recent announcement by the corporation regarding the purchase order for 90 new 76-seat aircraft. Although this order has aircraft that are allowed under the current Scope Clause and appears to be in compliance with the restriction on these types of aircraft, APA has made it known to the "New American Airlines" that we are ready to resume talks for APA flying the E175 aircraft at the mainline. By bringing the E175 to the mainline, AAL will help bring our fellow pilots flying at the regionals to the mainline in a more expeditious manner. The pilot shortage is coming, and AAL has in its hands the ability to get ahead of the industry and secure a pilot force while the other airlines will lack the ability to man their regional feed as those pilots start to leave in droves for the majors.
Reasons for the flying to come to the mainline:
Pilot shortage
Ability to up-gauge A/C to >86k lbs and add seats
EMB Gen 2 E jets will add seats and weight
One-time hire for the mainline reduces churn and enhances pilot progression
Forward-looking has ability to lock up pilot stream
Keep it attractive to sustain the flow of pilots
More flexibility for AAL more seats on same a/c, APA flown
Goodwill building airline of the future
Get ahead of the industry in the present instead of playing catch-up later
CASM reduction revenue generator, more seats on same a/c
Who told you months in advance Eagle was getting E175's, and who told you days in advance the number was 150 of them in play.... To the point of even telling you it was 60/90.
Yeah, you're right. I'm not reliable.
12-14-2013, 04:53 AM
#1609
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Position: French-Canadian
Posts: 2,101
You should read that press release again. Who does it say will be flying the 175's as APA pilots.
Who told you months in advance Eagle was getting E175's, and who told you days in advance the number was 150 of them in play.... To the point of even telling you it was 60/90.
Yeah, you're right. I'm not reliable.
Who told you months in advance Eagle was getting E175's, and who told you days in advance the number was 150 of them in play.... To the point of even telling you it was 60/90.
Yeah, you're right. I'm not reliable.
12-14-2013, 08:23 AM
#1610
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Posts: 328
Why would an airline deliberately undercut themselves by giving one regional a huge advantage over the others? It seems to me like the moves they're making are meant to stabilize and preserve the current regional model, not destroy it. United is rumored to be working on flow through agreements with all of their regionals not just a select few.
I think in the future it won't matter which regional you go to because they'll all have the same paths to mainline. You pick the one that works for you or is closest to where you live and your time spent there will be like one long probationary period. Interviews and selection won't matter so much because by the time anyone actually "flows" they will have been thoroughly vetted for years. This is just my guess on where the industry is going.
I think in the future it won't matter which regional you go to because they'll all have the same paths to mainline. You pick the one that works for you or is closest to where you live and your time spent there will be like one long probationary period. Interviews and selection won't matter so much because by the time anyone actually "flows" they will have been thoroughly vetted for years. This is just my guess on where the industry is going.
Last edited by exwaterski; 12-14-2013 at 08:34 AM.
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