Eagle to hire 600+ in 2013!
10-22-2013, 06:53 AM
#1251
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I've seen the numbers at AA, the retirements are not "massive" especially not for the next 5 years.
About the 7 year regional pilots, like I've said guys with exceptional qualifications, women, internships, and great recommendations will get people hired well before normal guys.
About the 7 year regional pilots, like I've said guys with exceptional qualifications, women, internships, and great recommendations will get people hired well before normal guys.
10-22-2013, 06:54 AM
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80kts you've been incredibly fortunate, there are guys who've been an FO at Eagle as long as you've been at DAL.
I think the "networking" thing is the worst part about this industry honestly. It's not about your qualifications but how much you've prostituted yourself and brown nosed. Yes I have 1 rec at both UAL and DAL but I felt disgusting even asking.
I think the "networking" thing is the worst part about this industry honestly. It's not about your qualifications but how much you've prostituted yourself and brown nosed. Yes I have 1 rec at both UAL and DAL but I felt disgusting even asking.
It's not brown nosing or prostituting. People like to hire people they know, especially when everyone has the same qualifications. All else being equal recruiters will pick someone they know.
Would you hire a contractor to work on your house with out meeting them? Or would you go with someone that a neighbor used that they said did fantastic work.
Are some people getting ahead who aren't as qualified? Yes but that is a part of life in every line of work. Deal with it. You sound like a spoiled brat crying all the time.
22,000+ mainline pilots retire by 2024 due to Age 65, that total is more than the combined total number of regional airline pilots currently employed.
That number doesn't take into account any growth, FTDT, low cost carrier growth, etc.
If anyone gets stuck at a regional, its because they either choose to stay or they have skeletons on their closest.
If some sort of catastrophic event happened that wiped out that many mainline jobs then we'd have far greater problems then worrying about getting stuck at a regional.
There aren't 22,000 diversity hires, interns, children of VPs etc. That 22,000 mark is also only about half way through the retirement wave. There are thousands of more pilots to retire after 2024.
There will be plenty of opportunity for white males too. They might not be available next month, but it is coming.
10-22-2013, 08:57 AM
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Anything past 2016 is too late for me so I honestly don't care who retires by 2024.
10-22-2013, 09:51 AM
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There are mitigating factors. Growth at mainline is not assured, especially due to the huge increase of state owned foreign carriers. In fact, these carriers pose very real long term threat to all of mainline overseas routes. Delta has already complained about losing routes because of Emirates and Air India. Their domestic market share will also be lost to the likes of aggressive low cost carrier growth (Spirit). Code share maybe cheaper than direct competition.
FTDT does not immediately translate into a lot more pilots. It translates into longer working weeks. It may result in som new pilots, but more likely means more productivity from current crews, meaning, your work life sucks more. And PBS more need for reserves than gains from FTDT. Let's also include a potential re fleet reducing the need for more crews as well.
Most of the opportunities for white males right now is overseas. These jobs provide a lot better money and life than at a regional carrier. It's a very different type of career path, but one worth considering.
FTDT does not immediately translate into a lot more pilots. It translates into longer working weeks. It may result in som new pilots, but more likely means more productivity from current crews, meaning, your work life sucks more. And PBS more need for reserves than gains from FTDT. Let's also include a potential re fleet reducing the need for more crews as well.
Most of the opportunities for white males right now is overseas. These jobs provide a lot better money and life than at a regional carrier. It's a very different type of career path, but one worth considering.
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10-22-2013, 10:17 AM
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Fellow Crewmembers,
Historically, November is always a difficult month to produce sequences and lines of flying with good cadence and purity due to the inherent amount of required schedule changes we receive from our mainline partner AA all stacked within the same month. November includes schedule changes for Daylight Savings, winter block hour adjustments, the Thanksgiving Holiday and amplified “Day of Week” schedule reductions on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Saturdays and Sundays, making the schedules on each of these days unique.
To further complicate this November, we have adjusted the rest period to a minimum of 10 hours and introduced CDO lines in preparation for FAR 117 beginning in January 2014. In some cases this has had a direct impact on the start and finish times of sequences affecting commutability. We expect this to be more of the norm as we transition to FAR 117.
Looking forward, for the month of December we typically receive less in month schedule changes from our mainline partner AA and therefore we usually see schedule improvements. However, we do have a couple Holiday schedule changes in addition to the amplified “Day of Week” schedule reductions that will continue until the spring schedule change. In December we will also continue with the minimum of 10 hour rest and CDO lines. We will continue to work closely with your representatives to provide you the very best schedules possible.
Regards,
Ric
Captain R. Wilson
Vice President, System Operations Control
American Eagle Airlines, Inc.
Historically, November is always a difficult month to produce sequences and lines of flying with good cadence and purity due to the inherent amount of required schedule changes we receive from our mainline partner AA all stacked within the same month. November includes schedule changes for Daylight Savings, winter block hour adjustments, the Thanksgiving Holiday and amplified “Day of Week” schedule reductions on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Saturdays and Sundays, making the schedules on each of these days unique.
To further complicate this November, we have adjusted the rest period to a minimum of 10 hours and introduced CDO lines in preparation for FAR 117 beginning in January 2014. In some cases this has had a direct impact on the start and finish times of sequences affecting commutability. We expect this to be more of the norm as we transition to FAR 117.
Looking forward, for the month of December we typically receive less in month schedule changes from our mainline partner AA and therefore we usually see schedule improvements. However, we do have a couple Holiday schedule changes in addition to the amplified “Day of Week” schedule reductions that will continue until the spring schedule change. In December we will also continue with the minimum of 10 hour rest and CDO lines. We will continue to work closely with your representatives to provide you the very best schedules possible.
Regards,
Ric
Captain R. Wilson
Vice President, System Operations Control
American Eagle Airlines, Inc.
There is a very real threat of mainline shrinking due to foreign carriers taking over international markets and low cost carriers taking domestic share. This is a slow erosion, not an overnight impact.
10-22-2013, 10:49 AM
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How many have they hired?
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