Eagle to hire 600+ in 2013!
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#1142
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We currently have 225ish airframes on property and will be a 220 airframe airline by Jan 1 2014. The PBS LOA sucks, management can make our life hell and we have no duty or trip rigs. With that said, management currently flies CA on RSV close to their monthly max, having PBS will save them money as people won't be getting paid for flights they don't do but it won't do wonders for staffing. Currently someone who has vacation and or training gets their trips dropped into OT and the reserve flies it, under PBS you won't get the trip but someone now will get lines built with those dropped trips. If one looks at the way the schedules are built for November it's no different to what they can do with PBS, there is no purity to lines in Nov.
Management will save some money from PBS at the expense of pilots maximizing conflicts and other things but it will not be the fix to staffing.
We have 2800 pilots and 225 airplanes, out of those 2800 probably around 100 are inactive and 200 (being conservative) or so are out between union and company assignment to include instructors So that leaves us with 2500 pilots flying the line. That is around 5.5 crews per airplane or 6 captains. That means that as 20 Captains leave for AA they would have to park 4 airplanes or so, then say another 10-15 elsewhere and AA is looking at having to park another 3 airplanes. So they are looking at parking 7 airplanes a month or 85 airplanes a year if they choose not to upgrade. Can AA withstand this amount of airplanes being parked while RAH struggles to staff 2 airplanes a month.
Currently RAH is staffing the AA flying with crews mainly who used to fly the E190s that were returned, at some point this will catch up to them as well as the Q400 operation.
It will be interesting to see what they choose to do. But this is why we are hiring, because even if they park 2-3 airplanes a month they will have to upgrade 25 guys a month just to keep up with attrition.
As things stand today AMR is not hurting for FO, they would like to attract as many as possible but we are overstaffed on many positions on the Fo side. They are waiting as long as possible before upgrading. When they time comes they will make the move to attract new hires but expect raising pay to be the last move. They know the power of shinny airplanes specially if they have engines under the wing and look like a 737.
Management will save some money from PBS at the expense of pilots maximizing conflicts and other things but it will not be the fix to staffing.
We have 2800 pilots and 225 airplanes, out of those 2800 probably around 100 are inactive and 200 (being conservative) or so are out between union and company assignment to include instructors So that leaves us with 2500 pilots flying the line. That is around 5.5 crews per airplane or 6 captains. That means that as 20 Captains leave for AA they would have to park 4 airplanes or so, then say another 10-15 elsewhere and AA is looking at having to park another 3 airplanes. So they are looking at parking 7 airplanes a month or 85 airplanes a year if they choose not to upgrade. Can AA withstand this amount of airplanes being parked while RAH struggles to staff 2 airplanes a month.
Currently RAH is staffing the AA flying with crews mainly who used to fly the E190s that were returned, at some point this will catch up to them as well as the Q400 operation.
It will be interesting to see what they choose to do. But this is why we are hiring, because even if they park 2-3 airplanes a month they will have to upgrade 25 guys a month just to keep up with attrition.
As things stand today AMR is not hurting for FO, they would like to attract as many as possible but we are overstaffed on many positions on the Fo side. They are waiting as long as possible before upgrading. When they time comes they will make the move to attract new hires but expect raising pay to be the last move. They know the power of shinny airplanes specially if they have engines under the wing and look like a 737.
You were doing fine till you began articulating a conspiracy theory and speculation as to the Fleet Plan.
That said - they WILL park aircraft in Mar and probably much earlier because of the unexpected "take rate" by the flowthroughs.
What should be evident to all by now is that a parked aircraft remains that way until returned. Witness the 135's that were parked
#1143
You were doing fine till you began articulating a conspiracy theory and speculation as to the Fleet Plan.
That said - they WILL park aircraft in Mar and probably much earlier because of the unexpected "take rate" by the flowthroughs.
What should be evident to all by now is that a parked aircraft remains that way until returned. Witness the 135's that were parked
That said - they WILL park aircraft in Mar and probably much earlier because of the unexpected "take rate" by the flowthroughs.
What should be evident to all by now is that a parked aircraft remains that way until returned. Witness the 135's that were parked
#1145
How are they going to replace those FO's that upgrade if we cant get new hires? (The recent 18 instructors displaced from AETC should give you the warm fuzzy feeling) Im afraid that AMR will come up with some kind of "Special Eagle Wire" in a month or so with the not so good news just in time for the holidays.....
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How are they going to replace those FO's that upgrade if we cant get new hires? (The recent 18 instructors displaced from AETC should give you the warm fuzzy feeling) Im afraid that AMR will come up with some kind of "Special Eagle Wire" in a month or so with the not so good news just in time for the holidays.....
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Eaglewire today says the 140s are staying til next summer now. How the sky keeps falling around here!!
#1149
Hey What, what do you think RJ Pilot's spin on this is going to be?
Harm to the 824? Use the ol' "Sweet Fleet plan" quip? The "Still parking them, no future, etc" approach?
Personally, I have hopes he might even come up with a new one! Maybe he has posted it while I type this.
Harm to the 824? Use the ol' "Sweet Fleet plan" quip? The "Still parking them, no future, etc" approach?
Personally, I have hopes he might even come up with a new one! Maybe he has posted it while I type this.
#1150
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How can you possibly relate anything that was said about the 824?!?! They flow, when AA hires, what is the confusion? If they wanted, the 824 can start flowing without new hires too...at least I don't know of any language that prohibits it.
Honestly RJ, just when you started making sense the last few weeks, here you go again.
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