shanejj

I really can't blame the "bad attitude posts"

Let's say I was to get hired into the regionals after a minimum
of 5 years instructing, building myself a few thousand hours, and some snotnosed kid with a wet tickets applies and gets hired into the same company...then yeah....I'd be ****ed too....and it's not because it's wrong....just a case of frustration and jealousy

I'm currrenty 350/75
Don't want to be the wonder kid, but I did apply at a few regionals....
considering I'm only 19, not many places I could get in. Colgan would be an option, but give the choice, I'd rather be flying a CRJ than a SAAB/BE1900. Just because (and o boy, here come the posts) it's shiny and pretty!

I was considering that ATP crj course thing for reduced minimums, but I got a guts feeling about that....

Is maybe VFR charter the way to go till I'm 21? :-)

CaptainMark

get some college or u will be stuck there...

shanejj

Def. am!
Should be graduating in about 2 years....when I'm STILL not eligible for
that ATP ticket...darn it

CaptainMark

u can still take the checkride..i took it at 21 and then on my 23rd birthday i got the certificate at a local fsdo...

shanejj

O really....
I was actually also reading a thread that was stating that it isn't in the FAR's that you have to be 21 for the written.
And that it does not expire if your employed at a 121 company.....
Don't know about all of that....

sflpilot

We all know that they have to have somebody to fly the airplanes. If they are desperate then they will go to the low-timers.

Ok now here is the problem: Military pilots and CFI's are low time, but when they screw up it will only hurt one or two people both of which know what they are doing can be dangerous. At an airline, when the low-timer screws up fifty or more people will be dead or injured. These people are buying a ticket with the expectation that they will be transported by someone who is going to keep them alive when things get bad. The passengers know nothing about flying and that is what they assume and have every right to expect.

Low-timers do not belong in a jet or t-prop flying people around. When the going gets tough most of them will need to change their pants. There is no substitute for real world experience, not a sim, not the books, but real flying experience. Not to mention that I predict the IFR environment in a jet will have these low-timers hanging on by the vertical stabilizer.

aceirishpilot08

I guess the CA must be sleeping? I think he's probably sitting right next to the FO and giving him the experience he needs and learning from the situation which everyone agrees is the best way to go.

Also how will the mystical jet IFR environment that will have me hanging from the vertical stabilizer become clear after the 1000th go around? It won't. But I bet it would make a lot more sense after a few months of ground school and some IOE don't you think??

Baronpilot

ASA is at 800/50

BoilerUP

How many US domestic 121 accidents have been directly attributable to a low-time (sub-ATP minimums) pilot at the controls? What about incidents? More to the point, how many pilots were hired into turboprops or RJs in the mid/late 90s between 300-600 hours, upgraded when they got ATP minimums, and are now either senior CAs at the regional level or at the majors?

Many of those people by and large had no jet experience, yet they went into RJs when they were first introduced to the market. How did they do? I'd say considering the two RJ accidents in the US recently (PNCL screwing off during a ferry and Comair in KLEX) I'd say 99.9% of those pilots have been nothing short of 100% safe and professional in their job.

You are right, nothing replaces experience...but you don't have to hand-fly checks in a Baron or a 1900 in the northeast for a year to be safe flying a modern regional aircraft.

mking84

Go fly for Uncle Hooley