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Old 12-03-2012, 12:05 PM
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My personal guess is that it will sharply follow a mirror image of ComAir's path.



Better use up all your sick time while you can!!!
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:48 PM
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Ouch man...
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Old 12-03-2012, 03:01 PM
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Everyone knows 9 E is going through tough times. But why such a intense comment ? Care to share why you think it's ends is so near or abrupt like OH's ??
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rightside02
Everyone knows 9 E is going through tough times. But why such a intense comment ? Care to share why you think it's ends is so near or abrupt like OH's ??
Sure, Delta management announced earlier this year that they were to park around 125 CRJ-200's. We've all seen that it's no problem for an ASA, ComAir, Mesaba, or Pinnacle airplane to float from one carrier to another. The leases can be transfered easily.

Some will say, Pinnacle has the newest CRJ-200 fleet, which keeps them safe from the cutbacks, but that's irrelavant given the history of the Delta Regionals swapping planes around.

I do not have a crystal ball, but with a death threat from Delta mainline to take huge concessions or qoute "wind down the operation" is not a bluff when their written plans on their SEC filings show to park 125 CRJ-200's. The scope at Delta is black and white on how many 76 seat CRJ's can be flown by regionals.

If you think Pinnacle will grow, your not reading the news. Pinnacle will not stay the same size. Pinnacle will either shrink or "wind down operations."

Delta shows no remorse on winding down an operation. Just look at ComAir. And they have NO LOYALTY to keep Pinnacle. This is a historical fact.

The meat and potatoes of their operation is their mainline fleet of 723 total airplanes. The regional industry is just a side operation. Think of the regionals as a Starbuchs in a Barnes and Noble bookstore.

Pinnacle has everything out of control right now. If you were Delta, and your written plans in your SEC filings were to cut out a CRJ-200 operation that was the size of Pinnacle, would you cut Pinnacle, Skywest, GoJet's, ASA?

I'm betting on unless they get huge concessions from labor groups and can get management to fix their wasteful spending, then Pinnacle will be null and void by June of 2013. So take your vacation before June, and start burning out your sick time now, while picking up open time on your off days.

I hope that answered your question.
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Pinchanickled

Delta shows no remorse on winding down an operation. Just look at ComAir. And they have NO LOYALTY to keep Pinnacle. This is a historical fact.
True.

"Remorse?" "Loyalty?" Those are pilots' downfalls.

Management is not burdened by those very, very expensive emotions. We shouldn't be, either.
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Pinchanickled
start burning out your sick time now, while picking up open time on your off days.
Just dont do it in the same month or you'll be shooting yourself in the foot.
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
True.

"Remorse?" "Loyalty?" Those are pilots' downfalls.

Management is not burdened by those very, very expensive emotions. We shouldn't be, either.

I like this ^ eye for en eye.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Pinchanickled
The regional industry is just a side operation. Think of the regionals as a Starbuchs in a Barnes and Noble bookstore.
BKS is getting crushed by e-books and Amazon. A lot of people now only go in there for the coffee and to find an idea to buy online. Is there a better example?
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Originally Posted by troyb
Is there a better example?
How about this one...

Against the windows in the JFK food court (Delta Terminal) there are three Mrs. Pac Man video games right next to each other. Yes, three. And they're all plugged in. People obviously don't go to JFK to play Mrs. Pac Man.

Delta is like the JFK airport.

And Pinnacle is like one of those Mrs. Pac Man games. The one on the right, to be more specific.
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Old 12-04-2012, 04:01 AM
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How about this one...

Against the windows in the JFK food court (Delta Terminal) there are three Mrs. Pac Man video games right next to each other. Yes, three. And they're all plugged in. People obviously don't go to JFK to play Mrs. Pac Man.

Delta is like the JFK airport.

And Pinnacle is like one of those Mrs. Pac Man games. The one on the right, to be more specific.
Oh yes, the mighty one on the right. It's got a busted screen, but no parts to fix it. Oh yea, and a bunch of tool bags at the helm.
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