ShyGuy

It's sickening to see management use the same dirty tricks and BK laws to screw employees. This whole thing sucks, and hopefully the pilots can get other better opportunities.

Saabs

Ah. Sorry I took that out of context.

skypine27

This will never change. I was in the same boat. I worked damn near 30 days a month as a CFI in Vegas and took home about 1300 dollars (all cash) per month. By the end of 1 year (ie, 15,600 K later) I was willing to take ANY turbine part 121 job that got me out of that. As it happened, that job was Great Lakes, which actually would have paid me LESS than I was making as a CFI (considering I'd have to pay taxes with them). Flew for them for 6 months before stepping-stone my way to FedEx (took 4 x 121 airlines to get here.)

Anyway, people preaching this "pilots should demand a respectable salary" blah blah are only half-right. I agree, once employed by an airline, we SHOULD exert whatever leverage/force we have through our negotiating committee (union or non union airline) to get better CBAs as time goes on.

BUT, you'll never stop the fed up CFIs and piston freight pilots who will take ANY turbine 121 airline job to "start" their "airline" career. Thats never going to change, ever. The solution is improving your airline's CBA through your NC and ultimately through your vote.

kingairfun

Very true.. You can never blame someone for trying to start their career. We were all there once.. And for those of us that passed through Comair at one point or another.. MR and SB were both jackasses of the highest order..... They were Chief Pilots who liked to hear themselves talk.

GrUpGrDn

FYI MR is at GJ in GS as we discuss.

RJtrashPilot

Someone told me SB was making him a chief pilot. Is that accurate?

Forgive the thread drift...

GrUpGrDn

That I do not know.

Boomer

The memos and speeches from our new President (who had been a Delta executive a month prior) specifically stated that the next big regional aircraft award would go to RAH unless Comair pilots voted to suspend the big 2005 pay step that was three months away (the 4th anniversary of Contract 2001, i.e. the Comair Strike Contract).

We were told this was an award for new CRJ/ERJ aircraft - we know Delta was not getting them.

And since we knew this guy had just come from running DCI, many of us believed him. TrashPilot wasn't the only naiive FO at the time.

kingairfun

I can only hope he will be a line pilot in the right seat... If anyone sees him tell him I'm wearing my hat, but at a legacy. And he can shove it..

He and I never got along, and he tried to blackball me. Called me into his office telling me about some walk around some Captain claimed I didn't do based on watching me through a Concourse C window...

Only problem was it was a plane swap with a 4 hr sit. (Verified by ramp tower) and I rememebred that a/c having an MEL'd brake heat indicator so it was mandatory to visually check the brakes and brake wear indicators.... So when my FO Union Rep advised me to just write a letter stating it will never happen again I said "Hell no" and wrote that a preflight inspection was done, referenced the MEL and the 4hr sit... And called the MEC to let them know what a ****ty job my FO Rep did...

Funny thing is I never had a run in with that Napolean until I started dating a girl in the office next door. Max is a not a friend of the pilots. He is a pompous, arrogant prick .....

djrogs03

Depends on who you ask...the pilots want more, some of those guys over there have lost 50% of what they used to have. I'm glad they are finally starting to see the return come back to normal.

The thing that most scares me about Delta is how much money they have spent. I hope the oil refinery pans out, it was a bold, smart, and risky move. For every dollar they spend 43 cents is borrowed. More than any other airline in the US. Southwest is the lowest around 5-10 cents. Delta may look good on the outside, but it's the inside that has me worried. They consistently take money out on loan to pay for other loans, while things are getting better, they are paying close to 500 million a year just in interest. They are risking the farm right now that fuel prices don't go up and the industry continues to stay steady.