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Old 12-05-2012, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo
HAHAHAHA WHAT?! I swear I don't know where you guys get this stuff?! ok so lets assume that this rumor isn't complete bs.... (and it is)... you have to staff about 140 aircraft. That means at 11 pilots per a/c you have to hire around 1500 guys... On top of that you have to hire for attrition likely about 300 a year on just the ASA side, that equates to 900 over 3 years... Then you need to compensate for the change in duty rules I would guess about 15% more pilots but a more conservative approach would be 10% if we have 300 a/c then we have 3300 pilots on the old staffing model and would have to add 330 for the new model... lets add that all up people; 1500+900+330= 2730 pilots.... It's not realistic and likely never going to happen. That would mean hiring 900 pilots per year. We have about 1500 active pilots as it is. Hiring 900 pilots in a year is 60% percent of our current active pilots. Even if it were plausible to to find this ammount of people (which it's not, and I mean that seriously), there is absolutely no chance we could train at that level without using every single CRJ sim in the entire world, around the clock, 365...


Gentlemen, there is a difference between growth and healthy growth. Airlines generally want the latter. I'm eager for an upgrade people but if we get this ammount of flying it would probably come at a cost of mainline jobs. Regional airlines do not in any way benefit our long term career objectives. Just my .02
Believe what you will. It is almost a certain fact that the regional sector will be grossly understaffed come 2013 to 2015. It's hard enough now to staff a class of 24, let alone come 2014 when ASA alone is losing 40 per month. I know it's hard to imagine now, but you have to remember that in the late 90's to early 2000's; there were new hires getting junior manned straight out of new hire training to the left seat!
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by spudskier
He didn't say I was lying, he just doesn't believe it until he sees it. Fair enough. I've been here a little longer than him and I've heard the same crap from SH. Five years doesn't mean much around here...
This didn't come from SH. This came from the FAA and the training department. Believe what you want, no skin off my back. Just sharing info I believe to be sturdy.
That's why I quoted JustAnotherPLT - I backed his position on SH either alluding to or outright claiming EFBs would have been on property at least 4 years ago (almost).
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:12 AM
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All knowing Trip7 has been here five years and he says you are lying.

I also very specifically remember SH in recurrent summer of 2008 - "We've done our research and you can expect EFBs to be online by January or February 2009."
Summer 08? Back when ACARS had just been installed a a couple ATRs were still running around not to mention iPads didn't exist. Sorry, but I find it highly unlikely this was said back then
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:30 AM
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This is why ExpressJet is preparing to grow!


Delta Air Lines orders up to 70 Bombardier CRJ900 NextGen Jetliners
Bombardier Aerospace announced that Delta Air Lines (DAL) has placed a firm order for 40 Bombardier (BDRBF) CRJ900 NextGen regional jets and has taken options on an additional 30 CRJ900 NextGen aircraft. Based on the list price of the CRJ900 NextGen aircraft, the firm order is valued at approximately $1.85B, and could reach approximately $3.29B if the 30 options are converted to firm orders.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:13 AM
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Summer 08? Back when ACARS had just been installed a a couple ATRs were still running around not to mention iPads didn't exist. Sorry, but I find it highly unlikely this was said back then
Trip, you're getting wrapped around the axle about the 5 years. 5 years is how long I've been here. The joke was that I feel they've been talking about iPads since I've been here... iPads didn't exist. Clearly you're not into my joke. It's like when someone uses the phrase: "feels like forever, feels like eternity, never ending." I can certainly post more if that doesn't help.

EFBs however have been talked about for some time, not 5 years like the joke but I would say much longer than the iPad idea.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:44 AM
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This is why ExpressJet is preparing to grow!


Delta Air Lines orders up to 70 Bombardier CRJ900 NextGen Jetliners
Bombardier Aerospace announced that Delta Air Lines (DAL) has placed a firm order for 40 Bombardier (BDRBF) CRJ900 NextGen regional jets and has taken options on an additional 30 CRJ900 NextGen aircraft. Based on the list price of the CRJ900 NextGen aircraft, the firm order is valued at approximately $1.85B, and could reach approximately $3.29B if the 30 options are converted to firm orders.
Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner!
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherPLT
Trip, you're getting wrapped around the axle about the 5 years. 5 years is how long I've been here. The joke was that I feel they've been talking about iPads since I've been here... iPads didn't exist. Clearly you're not into my joke. It's like when someone uses the phrase: "feels like forever, feels like eternity, never ending." I can certainly post more if that doesn't help.

EFBs however have been talked about for some time, not 5 years like the joke but I would say much longer than the iPad idea.
Gotcha, understood.

As far as today's Delta CRJ900 deal, I don't think the recent surge in hiring has that much to do with that. Those planes have to trickle in as the 717s come on line per the DAL Pilot Contract. Delta is only is getting a 13 or so 717s in 2013 so only 10 or so 900s can come online in 2013.

I think the hiring surge is for AMR flying and the MIA base/DFW expansion.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:32 AM
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I think the hiring surge is for AMR flying and the MIA base/DFW expansion.

MIA base? is that confirmed?
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MIA base? is that confirmed?
If it was confirmed I wouldn't say I think
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:40 AM
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If it was confirmed I wouldn't say I think
I'm raising the BS flag. I know who you are, and you are not getting inside information. MIA has NOT been "confirmed" (yet)!
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