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Old 09-26-2012, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by B00sted
Why are you blaming him? Seems to me the company has gone down the tube since he left!
9e always made money when Trenary was running the show. When XJ mgmt took over things went south.
ha ha ha... my house looks great. I lose my job, it may still look great from the road, but that doesn't mean anything has been done to keep it liveable inside... That is basically what has happened here... it was perfume on a very dirty sick pig. Phil was lucky to get fired when he did... See Paul Foley and Mair Holdings. He looked like a genius until his plan failed when the court wouldn't throw out Mesaba's scope in the bankruptcy... next thing you know Mair closes down Big Sky then immedately liquidates...
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Old 09-26-2012, 06:54 PM
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ha ha ha... my house looks great. I lose my job, it may still look great from the road, but that doesn't mean anything has been done to keep it liveable inside... That is basically what has happened here... it was perfume on a very dirty sick pig. Phil was lucky to get fired when he did...
where have I heard this before.....oh yeah! Politics for the last 4 years!
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:00 PM
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While PT did screw his employees, and least he gave them a little foreplay and a phone call a week later. This current management group not only bends you over but also gives you an STD, then hides the penicillin and brags about it on Facebook.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:26 PM
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While PT did screw his employees, and least he gave them a little foreplay and a phone call a week later. This current management group not only bends you over but also gives you an STD, then hides the penicillin and brags about it on Facebook.
People pay good money for that type of thing. I believe there are websites as well.

Phil built a house of cards, he just happened to get canned before they fell. The is still his fault, DL saw an opportunity to use bankruptcy to lower RJ costs and will then use that to whipsaw against other current DCI carriers i.e. Skywest/Expressjet, Gojets, Compass and Republic. Everyone licking their chops over our demise and our heavy RJs will soon get the "we can't compete with companies like Pinnacle so we need concessions" memos from their CEOs. Phil was an idiot and ran the company into the ground, DL saw an opportunity to force a CH. 11 to reset RJ rates, Menke left because he didn't want to be a yes man, J.S. is now in charge and taking his orders directly from the big building on the Northside of ATL. It sucks for us but we are just a subcontractor for a large corporation, DL doesn't owe us anything, it's strictly business.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:31 PM
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except it seems most of those hiring today don't want captains, they want fo's that dont have the time to leave anytime soon if they are hired....

right on the money with this one.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:36 PM
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I would rather see that place burn to the ground than see those guys take pay cuts. For the good of the industry, those need to be the only 2 options.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:25 PM
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I would rather see that place burn to the ground than see those guys take pay cuts. For the good of the industry, those need to be the only 2 options.
Would you like me to say I hope you airline burns down? I try to stay out of these but I am getting sick of everyone that does not work here saying burn it down. I agree we can not take pay cuts but if we burn it down is it going to make go jets pay more? Are you guys going to pay my bills? I went to Mesaba because at the time it was a "descent" regional. Now I am stuck because i can not afford to go to year one pay. So if you guys agree to pay my bills I will gladly burn it down but if not, stay out of it and let each one of us decide what we are going to do. Of course if we get the 1113 term sheet rates then we will have to burn it down. We would hate to lower the bar so that go jets has to take a pay cut.
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Would you like me to say I hope you airline burns down? I try to stay out of these but I am getting sick of everyone that does not work here saying burn it down. I agree we can not take pay cuts but if we burn it down is it going to make go jets pay more?
Not sure if serious?
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
I would rather see that place burn to the ground than see those guys take pay cuts. For the good of the industry, those need to be the only 2 options.
“…I would rather see that place burn to the ground…,”

This sounds very selfish. Pilots are not the only employee group.

How about many thousands of other employees who would lose their jobs if the ‘…place is burned to the ground.’?
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