Pinnacle Reveals Tenuous Nature ... (Article)
10-04-2012, 01:57 PM
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That being said, CPZ did have a much better vetting and hiring process due to the fact that they were hired knowing they were going to flow up.
10-04-2012, 01:58 PM
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10-04-2012, 02:03 PM
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Like when Delta laid off pilots after 9/11, with very little hiring, and the Delta MEC wanted to work with the Comair MEC in regards to hiring without resigning seniority number at Delta? I recall the Comair MEC held the Delta furloughees hostage to try and gain things in their favor like more 70/90 seaters, a seniority list integration, etc.
10-04-2012, 02:06 PM
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Which, as a Pinnacle pilot, I wish would happen. If Pinnacle gets away with these 1113 proposals (which I'm pretty sure they were suggesting on direct orders from Delta) then we would all be better off. I'm afraid that Delta, not giving a care about their regional lift employess, also doesn't give one about their mainline employees. What's being done at 9E is absurd. Proposals that have been pretty much the worst made in the history of the 121 world. If they can get away with it here, why on earth wouldn't they at least try to get away with it everywhere else? Please don't try and tell me that Delta cares about you, or anyone else.
10-04-2012, 02:20 PM
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I'm not gloating at all. I'm simply proving that Delta is shifting flying back to mainline. I'm proving that the contract isn't a joke. It is a serious matter that has and will continue to effect the lives of many.
I'm also not dumping on the regionals. I myself came from the regionals. What I'm doing, is focusing on shifting flying back to mainline so that we may all make a decent living and enjoy going to work. I know several Comair pilot's who have families to feed. I sympathize with them, & wish them the best. We as Delta pilots aren't privy to who will get the gauntlet. But we were given the opportunity to shift jobs back to higher paying, better QOL positions. And I think people need to focus on that.
I'm also not dumping on the regionals. I myself came from the regionals. What I'm doing, is focusing on shifting flying back to mainline so that we may all make a decent living and enjoy going to work. I know several Comair pilot's who have families to feed. I sympathize with them, & wish them the best. We as Delta pilots aren't privy to who will get the gauntlet. But we were given the opportunity to shift jobs back to higher paying, better QOL positions. And I think people need to focus on that.
10-04-2012, 02:26 PM
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And as a mainline pilot, you too can be replaced. And probably will be. If the bottom line is dollars as you suggest, then there is a whole slew of young regional guys and some not even out of college who are drooling to get your position, and they will live with Mommy and Daddy just so they can do it. They will work for much less than you. Oh Mr. Mainline, how expensive you have become, we simply cannot compete anymore because we pay you too much to fly our planes. We need to find someone cheaper. We will file bankruptcy and then have your contract thrown out. A judge will allow it and boom, all of a sudden you become so replaceable. Keep eating those wafers.
10-04-2012, 02:31 PM
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Then I suppose it's also ok for companies to get their parts and supplies overseas from other countrys while the American economy tanks just so a handful of greedy investors and Ceo's can get richer.
10-04-2012, 02:34 PM
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And as a mainline pilot, you too can be replaced. And probably will be. If the bottom line is dollars as you suggest, then there is a whole slew of young regional guys and some not even out of college who are drooling to get your position, and they will live with Mommy and Daddy just so they can do it. They will work for much less than you. Oh Mr. Mainline, how expensive you have become, we simply cannot compete anymore because we pay you too much to fly our planes. We need to find someone cheaper. We will file bankruptcy and then have your contract thrown out. A judge will allow it and boom, all of a sudden you become so replaceable. Keep eating those wafers.
10-04-2012, 03:00 PM
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Exactly. What Mr. Mainline doesn't understand is that these replaceable regional guys could out-compete him in just about every way. They will work longer hours, fly more legs, submit to a lower quality of life than he enjoys, sacrifice more time away from home, work under a much less desirable contract, and so much more for pennies on the dollar of what he is making. As we speak, there is some junior pilot somewhere on reserve being abused and flying more legs this week than Mr. Mainline will in the whole month. You're right, American is a joke right now and will be for a long time to come. Their real hurt hasn't even started to happen. But that could never happen to DAL. Not ever.
10-04-2012, 03:08 PM
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And as a mainline pilot, you too can be replaced. And probably will be. If the bottom line is dollars as you suggest, then there is a whole slew of young regional guys and some not even out of college who are drooling to get your position, and they will live with Mommy and Daddy just so they can do it. They will work for much less than you. Oh Mr. Mainline, how expensive you have become, we simply cannot compete anymore because we pay you too much to fly our planes. We need to find someone cheaper. We will file bankruptcy and then have your contract thrown out. A judge will allow it and boom, all of a sudden you become so replaceable. Keep eating those wafers.
I know I can be replace. I was by thousands of regionals when I was furloughed. Been there done that. I will not and did not vote to give more flying away. Good luck mr. RJ guy. You will be all happy to take my flying I know that by your post.
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