Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Regional
Is Pinnacle the next ComAir? >

Is Pinnacle the next ComAir?

Search

Notices
Regional Regional Airlines

Is Pinnacle the next ComAir?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-02-2012, 10:06 AM
  #21  
Gets Weekends Off
 
PerpetualFlyer's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2011
Posts: 495
Default

Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat
Comair was the first domino. The plan is already in place. If you doubt it, ask a Delta pilot to show you their contract. Unless you are mainline, there is no place for you in the future.
Job's going back to mainline is a good thing, right?
PerpetualFlyer is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 10:07 AM
  #22  
Gets Weekends Off
 
AxialFlow's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2009
Posts: 519
Default

Originally Posted by MD11
Yes we are the next Comair. Delta is keeping us going only until the flying can be absorbed by others. Its over.
I wouldn't say it's over JUST yet...DAL is still waiting to see if PCL bites on the proposed paycuts and work rule changes. PCL is really stuck between a rock and a hard place.
AxialFlow is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 10:09 AM
  #23  
Gets Weekends Off
 
AxialFlow's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2009
Posts: 519
Default

Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer
Job's going back to mainline is a good thing, right?
In theory. But when is mainline going to hire???
AxialFlow is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 10:11 AM
  #24  
Line Holder
 
subrat's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: Barbie Jet Driver
Posts: 74
Default

Originally Posted by rickt86
Eagle is the next Expressjet, or Compass. The efficiency of Eagle is top in the industry. With the kickbacks from the employee groups it will open make that stronger. If we get spun off be ready for another player in the whipsaw game everywhere. Or wait for your airline to buy us, and enter into an internally whipsaw.

Skywest is already tell their employees they arent as competitive as Eagle.
Eagle is not an airline. Your mec gave away all your airplanes so it's just a pilot group. It also happens to be a very senior expensive pilot group. AA would save alot of $ by farming out all of eagles flying and just rehiring you guys as new hires.
subrat is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 12:22 PM
  #25  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 75
Default

Originally Posted by subrat
Eagle is not an airline. Your mec gave away all your airplanes so it's just a pilot group. It also happens to be a very senior expensive pilot group. AA would save alot of $ by farming out all of eagles flying and just rehiring you guys as new hires.
I'm sure AA is taking cues from DAL in shutting OH down for cheaper rates. Expect some other loser start-up to do your flying soon.
meesq is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 12:43 PM
  #26  
Rollin'
 
MatchPoint's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: AA Airbus
Posts: 829
Default

Originally Posted by rickt86
Eagle is the next Expressjet, or Compass. The efficiency of Eagle is top in the industry. With the kickbacks from the employee groups it will open make that stronger. If we get spun off be ready for another player in the whipsaw game everywhere. Or wait for your airline to buy us, and enter into an internally whipsaw.

Skywest is already tell their employees they arent as competitive as Eagle.
I've never heard this from Mgmt. but nice try, I needed a good chuckle.

BTW, you're teeth are red from all the Kool-Aid......
MatchPoint is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 12:52 PM
  #27  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,735
Default

Whatever it is, it's goin to be 2-3 years before the dust settle.
Silver02ex is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 01:58 PM
  #28  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: FO
Posts: 3,044
Default

The wheels were set in motion at Comair in August of 2005 and it will have taken 7 years to get to where they are now. I feel the closing was really put in stone back in Aug/Sept of 2010 when the announcement to park half the fleet.

They dynamics are different with Eagle and Pinnacle. PNCL is a publicly traded company and has management that can look for work and answers to creditors. Eagle is more like Comair, wholly owned with another company calling the shots. It has managers who take their directions from their bosses at AMR.
BlueMoon is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 06:19 PM
  #29  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: forever fo
Posts: 2,413
Default

Originally Posted by MatchPoint
I've never heard this from Mgmt. but nice try, I needed a good chuckle.

BTW, you're teeth are red from all the Kool-Aid......

CAL didnt play this card with expressjet, or Delta with ASA or Mesaba. USair still maintains PDT and PSA. I dont think the comair end is Eagles end. Its a growing company still, taking over many ground handling units for United Express and other airlines. They are not really that much more senior than units of Skywest and RAH. I still put my money they get spun off and buy someone up, or get sold to another holding company, and much up some of your watering mouths of gaining our flying.

Just remember all you guys drooling at the idea of getting AMR flying, you could just as quickly be getting thrown into a merger with Eagle.
lakehouse is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 06:22 PM
  #30  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: forever fo
Posts: 2,413
Default

Originally Posted by BlueMoon
The wheels were set in motion at Comair in August of 2005 and it will have taken 7 years to get to where they are now. I feel the closing was really put in stone back in Aug/Sept of 2010 when the announcement to park half the fleet.

They dynamics are different with Eagle and Pinnacle. PNCL is a publicly traded company and has management that can look for work and answers to creditors. Eagle is more like Comair, wholly owned with another company calling the shots. It has managers who take their directions from their bosses at AMR.
Except AMR is trying their hardest to spin eagle off. The SEC filing last fall put that in stone.
lakehouse is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
norskman2
Regional
204
03-04-2014 01:11 PM
SWAjet
Regional
23
01-14-2010 07:19 AM
TristarJS30
Regional
16
05-24-2007 06:02 PM
PistolP
Regional
21
12-29-2006 08:09 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices