Is Pinnacle the next ComAir?
#101
Chautauqua 26
Comair 30
ExpressJet 93
Pinnacle 141
SkyWest 63
TOTAL 353
The figure I've read has been for a reduction of 218 "50 seaters".
In any event, I'm sure they'll be a big reduction at Pinnacle anyway.
#102
Why Yes, as a matter of fact, I passed 2nd grade math. However, you must have failed 2nd grade english. It is written in this article below, highlighted to help your reading comprehension skills.
Delta pilots vote to OK new labor contract - Memphis Business Journal
Delta pilots vote to OK new labor contract - Memphis Business Journal
Let me spell it out for you what the highlighted section means. Out of Pinnacle's entire fleet, a total of 140 (or 141 or 142 depending on your source) are the type (50-seater) that Delta wishes to park. NOT those exact 140 birds. And the number Delta needs to park is Much higher than 140 (as others have explains to you after me edit).
Wow..
#103
Why Yes, as a matter of fact, I passed 2nd grade math. However, you must have failed 2nd grade english. It is written in this article below, highlighted to help your reading comprehension skills.
Delta pilots vote to OK new labor contract - Memphis Business Journal
Delta pilots vote to OK new labor contract - Memphis Business Journal
Delta’s ALPA unit says it initiated the ratio concept.
The agreement lets Delta add 70 more 76-seat aircraft to its regional fleet, if it adds 88 mainline narrowbody aircraft and cuts its 50-seat fleet by more than 200 aircraft. But as Delta adds more 76-seat aircraft, the minimum ratio rises.
For example, when Delta adds its first 76-seat aircraft, the ratio starts out as a requirement for Delta to provide 1.1 block hours of flying for every hour of block flying outsourced to Delta Connection carriers. But the ratio increases for every 10 additional 76-seaters that Delta adds to Delta Connection service, ending at a mandate for 1.56 hours of mainline block hours for every hour at Delta Connection if the mainline operator adds at least 61 new 76-seaters to regional carrier operations. Once a new ratio is established, Delta cannot reduce it under most circumstances.
That guarantees mainline pilots at least 60.9% of the domestic block hours if Delta adds 61-70 of the 76-seaters, the Delta ALPA leadership says.
#104
He's probably flame bait
#105
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Why Yes, as a matter of fact, I passed 2nd grade math. However, you must have failed 2nd grade english. It is written in this article below, highlighted to help your reading comprehension skills.
Delta pilots vote to OK new labor contract - Memphis Business Journal
Delta pilots vote to OK new labor contract - Memphis Business Journal
um... it is saying pinnacle has the exact plane they want to phase out, not the exact number that needs to be cut. Reading comprehension is becoming a lost skill.
Read it one more time... the part you have in red.
#106
Sounds like you are in denial. Time to face the facts. Pinnacle is on life support at the moment. It's only a matter of time before it shuts down.
Those new CRJ-900's are not going to 9E, more like GoJets, SkyWest. Pinnacle cannot get their crap together and is a dead dinosaur.
Those new CRJ-900's are not going to 9E, more like GoJets, SkyWest. Pinnacle cannot get their crap together and is a dead dinosaur.
#108
Sounds like you are in denial. Time to face the facts. Pinnacle is on life support at the moment. It's only a matter of time before it shuts down.
Those new CRJ-900's are not going to 9E, more like GoJets, SkyWest. Pinnacle cannot get their crap together and is a dead dinosaur.
Those new CRJ-900's are not going to 9E, more like GoJets, SkyWest. Pinnacle cannot get their crap together and is a dead dinosaur.
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It is puzzling to me to see how blindsided so many on this forum are. After all that ALPA has f'ed up, so many still WANT to be part of ALPA! That is rediculous in my view.
Do you all not realize that the reason Pinnacle is going to shrink is because Delta's ALPA agreed to a contract predicated on the fact that Pinnacle will SHRINK! They signed a deal that half of the CRJ-200's system wide will be parked in the desert, and only a handful of 900's will be awarded to the LOWEST bidder.
Yet!....So many still say that they want ALPA.
In our legal system, an attorney cannot legally defend the plaintiff AND the defendant. Each side of the isle needs their own representation. Likewise, a regional needs to be represented to best suit their own needs, and a major needs to be represented to best suit their own needs as well.
Pinnacle and each regionally out there could far much farther if they banded together and formed a multi-regional union.
Do you all not realize that the reason Pinnacle is going to shrink is because Delta's ALPA agreed to a contract predicated on the fact that Pinnacle will SHRINK! They signed a deal that half of the CRJ-200's system wide will be parked in the desert, and only a handful of 900's will be awarded to the LOWEST bidder.
Yet!....So many still say that they want ALPA.
In our legal system, an attorney cannot legally defend the plaintiff AND the defendant. Each side of the isle needs their own representation. Likewise, a regional needs to be represented to best suit their own needs, and a major needs to be represented to best suit their own needs as well.
Pinnacle and each regionally out there could far much farther if they banded together and formed a multi-regional union.
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That was not your arguement whatsoever. I can repost if u prefer. U said I don't understand English because u claimed that pinnacle has the exact amount of 50 seaters that the new delta scope is going to park. Please quote me where I said anything about pinnacle being financially viable, or stood up for them. Until then go back to second grade, and quit posting. U lost.
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