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Old 08-26-2012, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by samballs
Yup, I remember that. We got a nice line guaranteeing aircraft not pilots. They parked 37? And furloughed the crap out of comair. Im voting no, but I'm sick and tired of hearing people say AA can't find a carrier to pick it up. Yes they can and they will. When DL did it to comair, rah, mesa, etc. Just came to cvg and hired the furloughs. How does anyone think gojets is covering all they're new flying? Simple they hired comair management and hired comair pilots. Its not hard to do. Only ones who can't figure it out are the people saying it can't be done. With that said lets vote this turd down, and show management what suck feels like. Sorry if this post sucks but typing on my phone and Google seems to be owning my spelling and overall sentence building ability!

Sam,

I'm a big no vote for many of the reasons being stated. However, the captains I fly with who've spent the last 20 years flying the Bahamas are all going to vote for what ever is put in front of them....they're all scared of being the next Comair and don't realize that by voting these concessions in you've prevented nothing.

The other thing they are all locked in on is no drop in their hourly rate. PBS is going to insure they take home less money next year than this year.
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
Its to my advantage, I have a couple years left. Flying something bigger than a C7 would be nice.
Then you should've left AE.
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Old 08-26-2012, 09:08 AM
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voting yes or voting no, the outcome of this company will still be the same. The 35 million a year in savings, is not going to change the outcome. If they do plan on shrinking us to death, which I doubt, it wont matter how you vote.
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Old 08-27-2012, 11:01 AM
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
Looks like an 8yr deal for us. All we need now is this thing to pass, and it will.
I just have to scratch my head. In 3 years pilots have the opportunity to be in the driver's seat and now we're locked into this deal until 2021.... I know, we can talk in 4 years.
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Old 08-27-2012, 05:01 PM
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Well. We will be voting on an 8 year contract...

43% of pilots voted. Of who voted, 66% voted for 8 year.

...Why dont pilots vote...drives me crazy
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Old 08-27-2012, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 32LTangoTen
Well. We will be voting on an 8 year contract...

43% of pilots voted. Of who voted, 66% voted for 8 year.

...Why dont pilots vote...drives me crazy
Maybe 57% have blocked the annoying union propaganda, I mean emails and recorded phone calls. Thus they never knew or cared.
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Old 08-27-2012, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rickt86
Maybe 57% have blocked the annoying union propaganda, I mean emails and recorded phone calls. Thus they never knew or cared.
No. They just believe the union. Because, after all, they ARE fighting for us. Right!? Our union really sticks it to the company and gets us the BEST deal possible! And we have to give up SO MUCH to allow this company to make so much money.

Disappointing. Now the fight is for a NO but I wouldn't expect much more than half our pilots to even vote. They're drinking the Tony juice just like Jonestown, Guyana.
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Old 08-27-2012, 07:16 PM
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not the tony constelation urine.
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by The Chow
I found This quote from the latest union email to be just rich considering what happened at Comair in '09....


Guaranteed aircraft is the same thing as guaranteed jobs; it is a specified allotment of aircraft that yield a corresponding number of employed pilots.

Samballs have you seen this yet?
They are right, but I am also the same person who kept telling people a fleet plan is meaningless. So yes guaranteed jobs and a fleet plan are the same in the fact they are both meaningless numbers.
They are far from the same thing.
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