be76flyer

They are right, but I am also the same person who kept telling people a fleet plan is meaningless. So yes guaranteed jobs and a fleet plan are the same in the fact they are both meaningless numbers.

bgmann

All AE pilots should read this. I believe only DFW pilots receive this email and all system wide pilots should be aware of this.

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August 24, 2012
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Fellow DFW Pilots,
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The MEC chairman decided that he wanted a DFW pilot teleconference to address pilots' concerns about the AIP.
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We told the SPC Committee chairman that we did not want this teleconference scheduled because we would not be able to moderate the call nor were we assured that the opinions of your elected leadership would take precedence over the opinions of the MEC chairman.
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Additionally, none of your LEC officers are available to conduct any type of teleconference at the appointed time.
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When we asked the SPC chairman to reschedule this teleconference so that our concerns could be addressed, we were told that the MEC chairman wanted the meeting in our domicile at this time and that he would not reschedule it.
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I cannot explain the actions of the MEC leadership, nor do I understand the rush. What is clearly apparent to me is that the MEC chairman wants to bypass your elected leaders and communicate directly with you. You must make your own judgment on this.
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We will schedule a LEC meeting soon so that you can speak directly with the leaders that you elected and not have the filters of the MEC officers.
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Fraternally,
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SnoJet440

My biggest reason for changing my mind to yes, I want an enforceable, consensual agreement exiting bankruptcy. I don't want to enter into mergers/spinoffs/standalones without an agreement.

samballs

Yup, I remember that. We got a nice line guaranteeing aircraft not pilots. They parked 37? And furloughed the crap out of comair. Im voting no, but I'm sick and tired of hearing people say AA can't find a carrier to pick it up. Yes they can and they will. When DL did it to comair, rah, mesa, etc. Just came to cvg and hired the furloughs. How does anyone think gojets is covering all they're new flying? Simple they hired comair management and hired comair pilots. Its not hard to do. Only ones who can't figure it out are the people saying it can't be done. With that said lets vote this turd down, and show management what suck feels like. Sorry if this post sucks but typing on my phone and Google seems to be owning my spelling and overall sentence building ability!

SnoJet440

Exactly, there will be no pilot shortage at American Eagle.

lakehouse

it will some how get ripped up, or we get merged into skywest with the worst contract, and get fenced off till its up.....FUN!!!

I want them to file the 1113 paperwork first, so we can see a real plan, oh wait they have not even put one single paper into court......hmmmmm

Team Tony OUT NOW

lakehouse

I disagree, Comair was during a huge downturn for the majors, and no 1500 hour rule.

The FTDT requires more pilots, the 1500 hour rule cuts off the supply, and the amount of pilots coming in is back to 1930 levels. Add into that 35,000 pilots retiring over the next 15 years from the biggest 8, and you have a mess. They know it, and they are scared beyond belief at the RJ level. Wait till United hires 500 in the next 6 months, and soon all the others follow suit.

Sucks 2000 out of the regionals in 10 months, while require more for FTDT and cutting the new hires to a dribble. I think this time, they wont be able to just get guys to come to the new place, they wont even be able to keep up with attrition.

D B Cooper

Nice attitude. Two questions, has the company told you, you are going to be flying bigger metal? Second, is the company going to pay you more money for flying said metal?

lakehouse

No, NO.....and voting no is also not a firm reason to assume it changes the chances of flying those planes.

Its all unknown, no matter what happens.

32LTangoTen

I believe what RJ is saying is. He is a captain now on the CRJ7 and only needs to be around another year or 2 to get his PIC necessary to leave. And he is expecting that they will hire him. And all he needs is a YES vote to keep eagle from going anywhere, or his CA seat from going anywhere, for just a couple years. And after that he can give a flying ____ about what happens to the other pilots cus he has it in his mind that he'll move on to the Major of his choice.