shackone

That's right...and you continue to show your ignorance of the military.

If you are trying to make the case that some pilot got hired because of a family connection, have at it. It's no secret in life that connections can help.

Just don't continue with trying to make a sometime thing sound like the norm. It's not.

Finally, don't use ANG situations as a way to comment on 'the military'. They aren't the same.

No. I knew no one at TWA. No one wrote letters for me. I was interviewed by the Vice President for Operations and the Director of Training. They asked me one question. After that, they wanted to BS about flying fighters. I walked out knowing I was hired.

captjns

Sounds like the bottom line for SH is that he was turned down by Alaska. Use the negative vibes as a learning tool for your next interview.

johnso29

It sure is funny how SkyHigh always talks about how good his life is, and how nobody should be in aviation, yet he interviews with Alaska. Some people just aren't happy unless they themselves and everyone else around them are miserable. Sounds to me like someones always got a case of the Mondays.

ghilis101

the military is a good option, but its going to be highly competitive these next couple years due to downsizing and budget cuts, so its not like it was right after 9-11 when the Air Force was taking in a ton of guys to meet their manning requirements.

johnso29

The military is letting a lot of guys seperate early due to overhiring after 9-11. I don't think it would be the best option for anyone due to extremely high competition as stated earlier. Maybe if you get hired by an ANG unit or a reserve unit, but not active duty.

SharkyBN584

Aviation is an incestuous business and everybody knows everybody. The kid I went to school with 2 years ago got me my job today. I don't see anything wrong with that. Some people call it networking, others call it nepotism or favoritism, but in the long run...it's someone standing up for the aviation skill and determination you were trying to use to get hired in the first place. Think of the people that help you out like a billboard. You don't just open a store and hope people will come in because you worked hard to open it. You get an advertising company to put up a billboard saying "Hey, go here" and advertise that you exist. Same thing when that buddy/brother/cousin/father/uncle/neighbor of yours who also happens to be a captain at XXX Airways walks your resume in.

johnso29

Dont Hate The Player...hate The Game!!!!

mike734

Everyone uses some form of advantage to get where they go and I don't blame them for that. Unless you were born in a brothel to a crack addict mom and a absent or abusive father, you were born in some privilege. Hell, even just being born in the USA gave you an advantage. If you interview with an airline, the job is yours to lose. Airlines do not bring you in unless you are qualified for the job. If you fail in the process somewhere, you need to look in the mirror.

I failed at too many airlines I care to mention before getting on with Alaska. I still don't know what they saw in me. Anyway, every failed interview gave me experience to build on and eventually I fooled them. But seriously, some guys are so, "head and shoulders" over the rest, they get their first choice of airlines. Most of us have to do the best we can with the hand we're dealt. I had no "in" with Alaska. If I can do it anyone can.

Skyhigh you need get over the fact that it did not work out last time at Alaska. Although you have landed on your feet, it is obvious you still have the bug. Alaska hiring again in record numbers. It is never too late to try again. Something needs to change however. I'm sure you would take the job if offered. So make it happen! Or get over it and stop trying to find a reason other than something about you for the reason you failed at Alaska.

AirWillie

SkyHigh, I assume you know already that the majors don't care about your flight hours or your experience, they already know that you can fly. They want the extra. Internal recs are done at every industry and some only hire by internal rec so you should be happy that there is still chance for off the street people in the airline industry.

dojetdriver

True, Mil trainig beats civ training anyday. But I would say it's hardly perfect. Look at the Dover C-5. How many guys in the front of that plane? How many instructors in the front of that plane? I'm not trying to start a Mil vs. Civ pi$$ING contest, just stating the point

I'm sure if Eagle could get people that actaully have experience, the statistic would be alot different.

As far as the 30-40% thing goes, are you absolutely sure it was failing out of training completely, or just had problems and required additional trainning?