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Old 07-22-2012, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
The CA will be some old lifer who slam-clicks and spends the entire overnight surfing deviant porn. Or if he's young, he'll have a Regional-Captain-God-Complex to the point where you just want to get the hell away from the tool as soon as possible. He'll go out with you, but you have to walk behind him and let him direct all aspects of the social outing (but he might actually buy you a beer...the Captain-God-Complex seems to mandate this).

Usually the FA is fat, ghetto, old, and/or very grouchy. At least two of those three. The best of the lot are going to be 55-65 year olds who divorced a doctor, took him for all they were worth, and will continually and subtlety remind you of their mercedes, townhouse dowtown, condo at Aspen, etc, etc.

If you're lucky the FA will be a normal gay male who you can go drinking with. Seriously. If you're not wearing a wedding ring, just b sure to casually mention your live-in girlfriend so there's no misconceptions.

Only exception is SKW. There are some FA's (and female pilots) who are suitable companions for a night out, but mostly in the west.

Best thing to do with your regional overnights is work out and enroll in a online masters degree (or bachelors if you don't have that).

Once you get to a major airline, the CA will be so old that you'll have nothing in common (unless you're both ex-fighter pilots) and he'll just bore you talking about his Porsche, BMW, condo in Aspen, live-in hanger at the airpark, Malibu Meridian, three ex-wives, grandkids, etc.

This may seem like rickair is joking. but he is VERY accurate.
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Example 1-
SEQ 15145 BASE MIA SEL 466 DOM EMJ¶

DT EQ FLT STA DEP STA ARR AC FLY GTR GRD ACT¶

SKD day 1 E5 3535 MIA 1425 CLT 1630 2.05 0.35 ¶

SKD day 1 E5 3536 CLT 1705 MIA 1920 2.15 0.35 ¶

SKD day1 E5 3592 MIA 1955 CLE 2300 3.05 ¶

D/P SKD 7.25 P/C 0.00 TL 7.25¶

HALF DAY COUNT CLE 2¶

SKD ONDUTY 9.35 ODL 10.45¶

SKD day 2 E4 4510 CLE 1045 LGA 1229 1.44 2.31 ¶

SKD day 2 E4 4429 LGA 1500 CMH 1655 1.55 0.30 ¶

SKD day2 E4 4557 CMH 1725 LGA 1925 2.00 0.40 ¶

SKD day 2 E4 4555 LGA 2005 CMH 2200 1.55 ¶

D/P SKD 7.34 P/C 0.00 TL 7.34¶

HALF DAY COUNT CMH 3¶

SKD ONDUTY 12.15 ODL 14.00¶

SKD day 3 E5 4145 CMH 1300 JFK 1445 1.45 1.00 ¶

SKD day 3 E5 4146 JFK 1545 CMH 1740 1.55 0.40 ¶

SKD day 3 E5 3575 CMH 1820 MIA 2100 2.40 ¶

D/P SKD 6.20 P/C 0.00 TL 6.20¶

SKD ONDUTY 9.00¶

SEQ SKD 21.19 P/C 0.00 TL 21.19 TAFB 55.35¶
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Example 2-
DT EQ FLT STA DEP STA ARR AC FLY GTR GRD ACT

SKD day 1 E5 3502 MIA 0720 ATL 0925 2.05 0.35 ¶

SKD day 1 E5 3501 ATL 1000 MIA 1215 2.15 2.55 ¶

SKD day 1 E5 3531 MIA 1510 BNA 1635 2.25 ¶

D/P SKD 6.45 P/C 0.00 TL 6.45¶

HALF DAY COUNT BNA 4¶

SKD TL 6.45 ACT TL 0.00¶

SKD ONDUTY 11.15 ODL 19.20¶

SKD day 2 E5 3528 BNA 1255 MIA 1615 2.20 0.35 ¶

SKD day 2 E5 3454 MIA 1650 TLH 1820 1.30 0.30 ¶

SKD day 2 E5 3455 TLH 1850 MIA 2015 1.25 0.35 ¶

SKD day 2 E5 3525 MIA 2050 PNS 2135 1.45 ¶

D/P SKD 7.00 P/C 0.00 TL 7.00¶

HALF DAY COUNT PNS 2¶

SKD TL 7.00 ACT TL 0.00¶

SKD ONDUTY 9.40 ODL 13.30¶

SKD day 3 E5 3526 PNS 1205 MIA 1500 1.55 1.40 ¶

SKD day 3 E5 3573 MIA 1640 CLT 1855 2.15 0.35 ¶

SKD day 3 E5 3538 CLT 1930 MIA 2140 2.10 ¶

D/P SKD 6.20 P/C 0.00 TL 6.20¶

SKD TL 6.20 ACT TL 0.00¶

SKD ONDUTY 9.35¶

SEQ SKD 20.05 P/C 0.00 TL 20.05 TAFB 63.20¶



This is what I am doing all month as an extremely JR line holder in MIA after trip trades. Averaging 90-95 hours month and about 15 days off. Takes medium amount of effort, and a good understanding of our contrat and will all go away when we get PBS.
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Originally Posted by skylover
Just wondering, when there is a "long overnight," does the crew usually do something fun together or go out for dinner or something in the city? That's one of the benefits to the lifestyle that's kind of appealing to me.
Maybe not usually, but occasionally, depending on the crew and the city, you can have a great time. The more junior aircraft seems to have the more sociable crews at my airline, but the senior airplane usually goes to the more interesting areas. The pairings with long overnights are usually worth less credit and/or less commutable, so sometimes they can go fairly junior. Every now and then I get lucky with 30 hours in midtown Manhattan or on the beach in Florida. The thing is that a lot of people will complain about everything -- you can stay in a 4 star hotel in the middle of the city and people will complain that the breakfast isn't free, or the ride is too long, or even that the TV doesn't get enough channels. So yeah, sometimes you just have to do your own thing.
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Flight Tail A/C Orig Dest Dep Arr Pax Block Credt Miles BurnAv Dhd Turn
1. DL1844 ATL DTW 18:30 20:39 __ 0:00 2:09 594 0 D 0:51
2. ONDUTY DTW DTW 21:30 23:30 __ 0:00 0:00 0 0 S
Day Total: 0:00 3:08 Duty: 6:15

Release: 23:45 Hotel: Sheraton Layover: 9:30
Report: 09:15am
Flight Tail A/C Orig Dest Dep Arr Pax Block Credt Miles BurnAv Dhd Turn
3. DL1175 DTW ATL 10:00 11:57 __ 0:00 1:57 594 0 D 0:29


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Old 07-22-2012, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverandSore
Flight Tail A/C Orig Dest Dep Arr Pax Block Credt Miles BurnAv Dhd Turn
1. DL1844 ATL DTW 18:30 20:39 __ 0:00 2:09 594 0 D 0:51
2. ONDUTY DTW DTW 21:30 23:30 __ 0:00 0:00 0 0 S
Day Total: 0:00 3:08 Duty: 6:15

Release: 23:45 Hotel: Sheraton Layover: 9:30
Report: 09:15am
Flight Tail A/C Orig Dest Dep Arr Pax Block Credt Miles BurnAv Dhd Turn
3. DL1175 DTW ATL 10:00 11:57 __ 0:00 1:57 594 0 D 0:29


Double deadhead! Best part time job in the world.
I don't understand...what legs do you actually fly?
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Or, to put in a plug, try a corporate deal. My last trip had 4 nights in downtown San Diego, 3 nights in Nice (Marriott Monte Carlo!) and 3 nights in London (Marriott Park Lane), airline home after crew change in LON. Business class DL. Meals? Actual expenses, submit receipts. Rental car? Everywhere but LON, not much use for one there. I've been home for 16 days, go out for 4 tomorrow, stateside.

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DAY DD DH C FLTNO DPS-ARS DEPT ARRV BLKT GRNT TBLK TDHD TCRD TPAY TDUTY LAYOVER

N4267 23JUL12 BSE REPT: 0541 REPORT- 23JUL12 LOCAL Times
Mo 23 4911 EWR-YYZ 0641 0829 0148 046
Mo 23 4911 YYZ-EWR 0915 1051 0136 042
Mo 23 4923 EWR-ORF 1133 1254 0121 0445 0000 0454 0454 0728 ORF 2035
D-END: 1309 (NR 0900) REPORT 0944
Tu 24 3925 ORF-IAD 1014 1129 0115 046
Tu 24 3936 IAD-PVD 1215 1356 0141 030
Tu 24 3936 PVD-IAD 1426 1615 0149 102
Tu 24 3918 IAD-ALB 1717 1856 0139 0624 0000 0624 0624 0927 ALB 1102
D-END: 1911 (NR 1100) REPORT 0613
We 25 4948 ALB-EWR 0643 0745 0102 044
We 25 4918 EWR-YYZ 0829 1017 0148 043
We 25 4919 YYZ-EWR 1100 1243 0143 0433 0000 0440 0440 0645
D-END: 1258 --------------------------------------
TOTALS BLOCK 1542 DHD 0000 CREDIT HRS. 1558 T.A.F.B. 5517
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
Or, to put in a plug, try a corporate deal. My last trip had 4 nights in downtown San Diego, 3 nights in Nice (Marriott Monte Carlo!) and 3 nights in London (Marriott Park Lane), airline home after crew change in LON. Business class DL. Meals? Actual expenses, submit receipts. Rental car? Everywhere but LON, not much use for one there. I've been home for 16 days, go out for 4 tomorrow, stateside.

Oh, yes, young Aussie F/A

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Originally Posted by rickair7777
The CA will be some old lifer who slam-clicks and spends the entire overnight surfing deviant porn. Or if he's young, he'll have a Regional-Captain-God-Complex to the point where you just want to get the hell away from the tool as soon as possible. He'll go out with you, but you have to walk behind him and let him direct all aspects of the social outing (but he might actually buy you a beer...the Captain-God-Complex seems to mandate this).

Usually the FA is fat, ghetto, old, and/or very grouchy. At least two of those three. The best of the lot are going to be 55-65 year olds who divorced a doctor, took him for all they were worth, and will continually and subtlety remind you of their mercedes, townhouse dowtown, condo at Aspen, etc, etc.

If you're lucky the FA will be a normal gay male who you can go drinking with. Seriously. If you're not wearing a wedding ring, just b sure to casually mention your live-in girlfriend so there's no misconceptions.

Only exception is SKW. There are some FA's (and female pilots) who are suitable companions for a night out, but mostly in the west.

Best thing to do with your regional overnights is work out and enroll in a online masters degree (or bachelors if you don't have that).

Once you get to a major airline, the CA will be so old that you'll have nothing in common (unless you're both ex-fighter pilots) and he'll just bore you talking about his Porsche, BMW, condo in Aspen, live-in hanger at the airpark, Malibu Meridian, three ex-wives, grandkids, etc.
Lawdy!! You nailed it!!
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
The CA will be some old lifer who slam-clicks and spends the entire overnight surfing deviant porn. Or if he's young, he'll have a Regional-Captain-God-Complex to the point where you just want to get the hell away from the tool as soon as possible. He'll go out with you, but you have to walk behind him and let him direct all aspects of the social outing (but he might actually buy you a beer...the Captain-God-Complex seems to mandate this).

Usually the FA is fat, ghetto, old, and/or very grouchy. At least two of those three. The best of the lot are going to be 55-65 year olds who divorced a doctor, took him for all they were worth, and will continually and subtlety remind you of their mercedes, townhouse dowtown, condo at Aspen, etc, etc.

If you're lucky the FA will be a normal gay male who you can go drinking with. Seriously. If you're not wearing a wedding ring, just b sure to casually mention your live-in girlfriend so there's no misconceptions.

Only exception is SKW. There are some FA's (and female pilots) who are suitable companions for a night out, but mostly in the west.

Best thing to do with your regional overnights is work out and enroll in a online masters degree (or bachelors if you don't have that).

Once you get to a major airline, the CA will be so old that you'll have nothing in common (unless you're both ex-fighter pilots) and he'll just bore you talking about his Porsche, BMW, condo in Aspen, live-in hanger at the airpark, Malibu Meridian, three ex-wives, grandkids, etc.
Spot on, I needed that laugh...
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