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#21
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Home base, home every night, not "just another regional" that we know of, guaranteed West coast base rather than spending who knows how long in the midwest or on the east coast waiting until you can hold a west coast base (except Horizon I guess but even then they're up in the Pacific NW).
#22
Yeah, it certainly is, but todays hiring at an established carrier can quickly become tomorrow's furlough too. jetBlue was probably risky too when they started in an already saturated east coast market but they made it work, so why not these guys? The odds are against them but then again, maybe a slightly eccentric 90yr old billionaire founder is just the ticket to make the place work.
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#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2009
Posts: 2,035
Yeah, my 20 minute drive to work was way better than the 3 hour drive after Skywest closed SAN!
#24
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 784
You guys know there are other airlines out west? Skywest, Eagle, Horizon, what's stopping you from going there now instead of waiting for some start up with 3 planes?
#26
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Home base, home every night, not "just another regional" that we know of, guaranteed West coast base rather than spending who knows how long in the midwest or on the east coast waiting until you can hold a west coast base (except Horizon I guess but even then they're up in the Pacific NW).
#27
Yeah, it certainly is, but todays hiring at an established carrier can quickly become tomorrow's furlough too. jetBlue was probably risky too when they started in an already saturated east coast market but they made it work, so why not these guys? The odds are against them but then again, maybe a slightly eccentric 90yr old billionaire founder is just the ticket to make the place work.
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#29
Home base, home every night, not "just another regional" that we know of, guaranteed West coast base rather than spending who knows how long in the midwest or on the east coast waiting until you can hold a west coast base (except Horizon I guess but even then they're up in the Pacific NW).
#30
Seems like a good business plan...in theory.
I've been amazed by how many pax are willing to pay $150 for an upgrade at the counter on a 30-minute flight from MSP-MSN. Seems nuts to me...but then again my cash reserves are pretty trim. 3 class makes sense, especially in the so-cal market, where most people have a little extra $$$
What will probably kill this project is operating E170's out of a 4,900' runway at a southern latitude. There's no way a 170 could get out of this place when it's 100F, no wind, full pax. Even if they used flaps 4, TO-1, No Flex, ECS REF OFF, its still VERY sketchy at best. Even if this were approved by the FAA, they would be weight restricted on most summer flights out of there. + Imagine all the overruns they would have on landing into CRQ, the 170 does have a tendency to float, esp when its light.
Tho, I wouldnt mind getting a west coast base again, would be niiiiiice
I've been amazed by how many pax are willing to pay $150 for an upgrade at the counter on a 30-minute flight from MSP-MSN. Seems nuts to me...but then again my cash reserves are pretty trim. 3 class makes sense, especially in the so-cal market, where most people have a little extra $$$
What will probably kill this project is operating E170's out of a 4,900' runway at a southern latitude. There's no way a 170 could get out of this place when it's 100F, no wind, full pax. Even if they used flaps 4, TO-1, No Flex, ECS REF OFF, its still VERY sketchy at best. Even if this were approved by the FAA, they would be weight restricted on most summer flights out of there. + Imagine all the overruns they would have on landing into CRQ, the 170 does have a tendency to float, esp when its light.
Tho, I wouldnt mind getting a west coast base again, would be niiiiiice
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