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Old 06-11-2012, 01:25 PM
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How often is the Bro weight restricted in the summer and winter seasons? I'm hoping to fly in and out of SFO from time to time.

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Every day regardless of season. I've never been able to get someone In the jump with a full plane, typically 28-29 pax and cargo is the best it will do. Summer weights with the right airframe you can get full pax, 30.
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from where? it can be done easier during the summer than winter due to the weights, fog, and extra fuel for the weather. The hard part can be letting the captain know you want to try and jumpseat. For example, in LAX, the United agents say
- There is NO JUMPSEAT on the bro.
- The jumpseat is only for FAA or Company check airmen

I remember a few times that even thou we were not full, a jumpseater would help with CG. But that was a SkyWest jumpseater, not sure they would allow a non skywest pilot sit up front if it wasn't full.

If all else fails ask a passenger to pass a note to the crew when they get on, if the weights work, they will allow you to ride up front.
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:04 PM
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Every day regardless of season. I've never been able to get someone In the jump with a full plane, typically 28-29 pax and cargo is the best it will do. Summer weights with the right airframe you can get full pax, 30.
It’s really not that hard, it all comes down to the bags and you’ll need an Aft Galley Bro. I’ve taken jumpers with 30 in the back lots of times.
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"from where."

I'm going to be commutting to MFR from the bay area starting this fall I've already started saving my sick time ;0 but I've been thinking about trying you guys out of sfo and lax once in a while. Thanks for the info.
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It is difficult alot of times to get 30 pax plus a jumpseater. Mostly depends on the airframe if you ask me. Our heaviest planes weigh 600 pounds more than the lightest one. Then it just comes down to bags in the back (which is hard to gauge beforehand) and winds/alternate fuel. Although SFO to MFR is usually just zero fuel limited. MFR to SFO can get max gross limited more often, due to good ole' SFO fog and flow. I think one flight a day might be on the RJ, I would try for that one whenever possible. MFR loads tend to be pretty full too.
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:40 AM
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Wy don't you go MFR-SAC via Q400. Then hop the Bro from sac-sfo... Shouldn't be gas issues there.
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It depends on the bags and length of the flight. A short flight with low cargo weight is about the only time you can have a jumpseater with a full plane. It's hard to commute to the Brasilia destinations. I have to do it a lot.
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The idea to go to sac sounds good but we are always full to and from SAC, and if we aren't full of revenue theres always a mainline guy looking to catch a ride
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No weather today for SFO-MFR, 2600# fuel 26,433 MGTW, 30+1 won't happen on most of the fleet.
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