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Old 06-01-2012, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by skylover
What is the chance that one could technically be granted an interview at a major (a la Delta) straight out of college with around 1,000 hours, during those years where retirements are at their peak? For example, for a few years around 2020, retirements at Delta alone are about 800 per year. Will the majors still only hire military/regional folks?
I know someone that was hired at United with about 1500 hours and an ATP and not 121/135 experience. I'm not sure when he was hired, but he is now an A320 captain and is in his 40s-50s. He did some sort of internship and probably had a few connections. I think you mentioned previously that you are in high school. If that is the case, I would start networking and trying to make friends with current 121 pilots. Best of luck to you.
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So, let me ask you this, do you think it's safe for a 1000 hour 172 wonder to seat behind the controls in a 737?

And please don't tell me that an Aviation degree makes a difference, I have one of those and it didn't make me any more qualified than the business majors! So maybe you can answer your own question.
I agree with you but let me play the devils advocate...overseas they put people fresh out of school in 777's and other heavies. It seems to work for them.
Apples to oranges, overseas they actually utilize ab-initio airline sponsored programs that have demonstrated a greater chance of success than 61-41 programs that do not provide the structure or tools to be a proactive pilot on the flight deck as oppose to a clueless wonder!
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Old 06-01-2012, 08:16 AM
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So, let me ask you this, do you think it's safe for a 1000 hour 172 wonder to seat behind the controls in a 737?

And please don't tell me that an Aviation degree makes a difference, I have one of those and it didn't make me any more qualified than the business majors! So maybe you can answer your own question.
It's okay for a 1000 hr pilot to fly a 50 or 70 seater CRJ but not okay to fly a 150 seater B737?
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Old 06-01-2012, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by skylover
What is the chance that one could technically be granted an interview at a major (a la Delta) straight out of college with around 1,000 hours, during those years where retirements are at their peak? For example, for a few years around 2020, retirements at Delta alone are about 800 per year. Will the majors still only hire military/regional folks?
Anything is possible but it's not very likely. A new hire regional FO that has completed IOE is a better bet for that possibility (they've proven they can get thru training and sim). I wouldn't plan a career on it but if you're talking hypothetical, who knows, anything is possible in 10 years.
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Old 06-01-2012, 08:41 AM
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Do you think it's safe for a 1000 hour "172 wonder" to control a CRJ-700? To me, it seems like pretty much the same thing...
And that my friend is why you are inexperienced in both ability and attitude.

I urge you to think about that before you get insulted.
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Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin
I agree with you but let me play the devils advocate...overseas they put people fresh out of school in 777's and other heavies. It seems to work for them.
The safety record over seas isn't terrible but is also not to the standards of the united states. Statisticly the rest of the world does have a greater percentage of accidents. Some countries much higher than others.

http://www.boeing.com/news/techissues/pdf/statsum.pdf

You can never replace experience...

To the OP question; who knows...what does AMR, DL etc do with scope? Economy? You are asking to predict something that is almost ten years out. IMHO I hope things do turn around for pilots, and the airlines feel the shortage on a large scale. I think this will happen but it will take time and perseverance amoung the pilot group as a whole.
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:01 AM
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And that my friend is why you are inexperienced in both ability and attitude.

I urge you to think about that before you get insulted.
Just out of curiosity (honest - I'm not in the business of making enemies here), what is the difference?
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:10 AM
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Just out of curiosity (honest - I'm not in the business of making enemies here), what is the difference?
You will gain wisdom(atitude) with years of experience in the industry and you will gain valuable experience as you accumulate flight hours. If you are still in high school and look forward to a career in the airline industry, I would recommend trying to get accepted to the Airforce Academy in Colorado Springs(if that's something that would interest you).
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Just out of curiosity (honest - I'm not in the business of making enemies here), what is the difference?
Neither am I, I sincerely don't mean it as an insult in anyway when I say inexperience.
Personally I think we are all inexperienced in many ways since we are always learning and improving on our abilities as pilots. The second you start believing you have it all figured out is the second something will pop up and surprise you.

I've never flown a CRJ-700, but I am sure anyone who has can attest to the amount of flying, knowledge, and experience one attains from working a busy regional airline pilot schedule. It is much different then jumping into a B737 and flying transcon red-eye flights. (Just an example)


My point is, a little humility can go a long way. My first airline job was flying a Saab 340 and I was ecstatic to be done with flight instructing at the time. Not saying I didn't enjoy being a CFI, but I was start to get burned out with it.

If I could give you one piece of advice, take one step at a time and try to enjoy yourself along the way.
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