Pinnacle Mangement Bankruptcy Proposal
05-10-2012, 08:57 AM
#81
Day puke
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: Out.
Posts: 3,865
For those with loans, there is always this:
Military College Loan Repayment Program (CLRP)
It can cover up to $65,000 of loans. If I am not mistaken, one could keep his seniority number while enlisted, and (at least when I was in) getting a flight billet was easier for an active duty member than a guy off the street.
(no, I'm not being snotty. Money saved and the GI bill paid for my flight training)
Military College Loan Repayment Program (CLRP)
It can cover up to $65,000 of loans. If I am not mistaken, one could keep his seniority number while enlisted, and (at least when I was in) getting a flight billet was easier for an active duty member than a guy off the street.
(no, I'm not being snotty. Money saved and the GI bill paid for my flight training)
05-10-2012, 09:08 AM
#82
Day puke
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: Out.
Posts: 3,865
Funny thing is lately one of the title loan companies has been advertizing that it is paying for high school kids to take a personal finance class.
05-10-2012, 11:26 AM
#83
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2010
Position: 757/767
Posts: 50
Somebody help me out with this one. Does this mean you would only get paid for 75 hours but might have to fly more? Or that they wouldn't build lines above 75 hours? Seems like that would ultimately require more pilots to make that work (for a given number of flight hours).
What am I missing?
What am I missing?
05-10-2012, 12:28 PM
#84
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: Back in school.
Posts: 580
The reason for that clause is the simple fact that part of the agreement between Delta and Pinnacle states that Delta will have the ability to change our total block hours from month to month. Capping the lines to 75 means that either a) there will be a while lot of reserves on a given month out b) there will be no reserves for that given month... Since our guarantee its 75 hours why would the company want some people to have the ability to break guarantee when they can almost do away with pilots going over guarantee... Does that make sense? Typing on my phone doesn't help my thought process...
05-10-2012, 12:58 PM
#85
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: CL-65 captain
Posts: 2,244
The reason for that clause is the simple fact that part of the agreement between Delta and Pinnacle states that Delta will have the ability to change our total block hours from month to month. Capping the lines to 75 means that either a) there will be a while lot of reserves on a given month out b) there will be no reserves for that given month... Since our guarantee its 75 hours why would the company want some people to have the ability to break guarantee when they can almost do away with pilots going over guarantee... Does that make sense? Typing on my phone doesn't help my thought process...
05-11-2012, 07:41 AM
#86
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: FIRE ALPA
Posts: 3,097
Finally......... some common sense:
V. Implementation of Integrated Seniority List.
A. The Carrier Parties shall not implement the Integrated Seniority List prior to operational integration.
B. No employee of any Carrier may claim an entitlement to seniority rights of any type under the integrated Seniority List, or to compensation or other benefits in lieu of such seniority rights, prior to Operational Integration.
V. Implementation of Integrated Seniority List.
A. The Carrier Parties shall not implement the Integrated Seniority List prior to operational integration.
B. No employee of any Carrier may claim an entitlement to seniority rights of any type under the integrated Seniority List, or to compensation or other benefits in lieu of such seniority rights, prior to Operational Integration.
05-11-2012, 09:05 AM
#87
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,920
For our 3-way merger, what SHOULD have happened is that even after the ISL, no one should have been able to jump across to another airline for a period of two years. Give it time to getting the airlines integrated first.
05-13-2012, 07:06 AM
#89
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Thread Starter
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 156
I'm with whoever said:
They got rid of all the money-losing operations.
We are making money on -200s and XJ-900's... so why do we need any paycuts or concessions?
I mean, I can see if we kept all that other flying then it makes sense for them to ask for paycuts (still rediculous though) but now why?
They got rid of all the money-losing operations.
We are making money on -200s and XJ-900's... so why do we need any paycuts or concessions?
I mean, I can see if we kept all that other flying then it makes sense for them to ask for paycuts (still rediculous though) but now why?
05-13-2012, 07:58 AM
#90
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: 320
Posts: 709
I'm with whoever said:
They got rid of all the money-losing operations.
We are making money on -200s and XJ-900's... so why do we need any paycuts or concessions?
I mean, I can see if we kept all that other flying then it makes sense for them to ask for paycuts (still rediculous though) but now why?
They got rid of all the money-losing operations.
We are making money on -200s and XJ-900's... so why do we need any paycuts or concessions?
I mean, I can see if we kept all that other flying then it makes sense for them to ask for paycuts (still rediculous though) but now why?
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