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Old 05-09-2012, 08:36 AM
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There is way too many paragraphs in there about being aquired by an airline without the same union.
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Please read your post again and think about what you just said.
i thought about it and don't understand the epiphany you want me to have. care to clarify?
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Please read your post again and think about what you just said.
What? He has a point. Some FOs can't make ends meet on 75 hrs.
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What? He has a point. Some FOs can't make ends meet on 75 hrs.
I think josh was getting at do not take a job if you can not live on the wages. Just a guess though
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SmitteyB
What? He has a point. Some FOs can't make ends meet on 75 hrs.
I think it's pretty clear. The pay rates are that crappy. And we've been held hostage by the Regional industry for so long that we've just started to accept our fates. I think he was trying to drive that home.
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
Well, you know, slave labor, indentured servitude....


If this is the business plan they have...?

I've said this before, at some point, people believe keeping the company afloat is better than having a good job, even if it means hurting the rest of the industry. Execs love this, and plenty of businesses are artificially propped up many times over, after the should have burned out and their markets taken by someone else or a new company (not a facade of a "new" company).

Step 1, Cut pay.
Step 2, ???
Step 3, Profit!
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Originally Posted by Bassman1985
I think it's pretty clear. The pay rates are that crappy. And we've been held hostage by the Regional industry for so long that we've just started to accept our fates. I think he was trying to drive that home.
"started to accept our fates"...The exact statement / mentality that will prevent this industry from ever improving. Way to many pilots have developed this mentality. Defeat is always preceded by acceptance.
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This will be a business school case study of how M&A activity can result in spectacular failure for years to come...

Also, its obvious PNCL management isn't concerned with a "pilot shortage" due to Age 65 attrition, flight/duty time changes and the looming 121 pilot qualification NPRM.
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
This will be a business school case study of how M&A activity can result in spectacular failure for years to come...

Also, its obvious PNCL management isn't concerned with a "pilot shortage" due to Age 65 attrition, flight/duty time changes and the looming 121 pilot qualification NPRM.
why should they be? we will have a steady supply of pilots just as soon as the "schools" start printing up shiny brochures showing a "graduate" in the right seat of the 747 he was promised he'd be in by the time he's 26....no matter what the pay is.
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Originally Posted by tom14cat14
I think josh was getting at do not take a job if you can not live on the wages. Just a guess though
uhmm well my entire plan was based on surviving until upgrade then paying down my loans. I since purchased a modest care nissan altima and have payments. with the size of my loans and any social life, i have to work about 85 hours a month.

stop with the holier then though. i'm wicked tight with my budget, its just that i have a huge loan payment. I have enough in savings to last a while but it is a steady trend toward personal bankruptcy
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