Pinnacle Dispute Resolution Letter
05-12-2012, 06:49 PM
#31
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THE THUNDERDOME where guys get to fight it out in their own section of the message board. It's truly good stuff. Same for Mesabapilots.com
05-12-2012, 07:07 PM
#32
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: FIRE ALPA
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I see. What you are saying makes sense now.
Slap at unity? There has been no unity from day 1 of the 3-way negotiations. Any hint of unity broke initially last April when Mesaba filed a dispute AFTER hearings were closed regarding the 9E DOH issue. THat didn't go well. Then the quotas came out and it reflected horrendous staffing numbers on the Pinnacle side from the old June 2010 staffing model, and then the 9E guys were downgraded so Mesaba and Colgan pilots could take left seats. That didn't bring any unity. And NOW that entire fleets are getting parked, it's every group for itself fighting to protect as many seats as they can for their own group. Face reality: there is no unity to be had ever since this three-way happened.
Ha! Good luck with that. Now that the livelihood of senior 9E pilots is affected, watch a 200% effort from the 9E side of things. Before, there wasn't really any clarification or fight when the junior side got screwed in unfair quota numbers and the Saab fence. I never heard a peep since the Aug 2011 update that the clarification is requsted from Bloch and he hasn't answered. That was also in regards to the Saab captain fence-off for Pinnacle pilots. How much you wanna bet, in cold cash, that THIS time, in regards to THIS issue with the CRJ-900 quotas, you WILL hear a clarification from Bloch?
Slap at unity? There has been no unity from day 1 of the 3-way negotiations. Any hint of unity broke initially last April when Mesaba filed a dispute AFTER hearings were closed regarding the 9E DOH issue. THat didn't go well. Then the quotas came out and it reflected horrendous staffing numbers on the Pinnacle side from the old June 2010 staffing model, and then the 9E guys were downgraded so Mesaba and Colgan pilots could take left seats. That didn't bring any unity. And NOW that entire fleets are getting parked, it's every group for itself fighting to protect as many seats as they can for their own group. Face reality: there is no unity to be had ever since this three-way happened.
Ha! Good luck with that. Now that the livelihood of senior 9E pilots is affected, watch a 200% effort from the 9E side of things. Before, there wasn't really any clarification or fight when the junior side got screwed in unfair quota numbers and the Saab fence. I never heard a peep since the Aug 2011 update that the clarification is requsted from Bloch and he hasn't answered. That was also in regards to the Saab captain fence-off for Pinnacle pilots. How much you wanna bet, in cold cash, that THIS time, in regards to THIS issue with the CRJ-900 quotas, you WILL hear a clarification from Bloch?
05-12-2012, 07:14 PM
#33
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AQP starts soon right?
05-12-2012, 07:30 PM
#36
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Grow up...they aren't out to get you. Not their fault you can't fly a missed approach with a failed FMS (or just go straight out anyways just for the hell of it) or leave the flaps at 20 after a v1 cut and not even bringing them up on the climb check. Plus the fail rate is around 10%. where are you getting this 33%? Inflammatory crew room and internet gossip? Sure it might inflate to 30% for a class or two but it is nowhere near 33% overall. I suppose the Feds are in on this too since so many have not been signed off on their first or second fed rides?
Last edited by IBPilot; 05-12-2012 at 07:50 PM.
05-12-2012, 07:32 PM
#37
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What does it say? that they want people who are capable of safely flying the CRJ with your family on board? You sound like one of those guys who turned the screen red on 3 v1 cuts and claimed he failed because he was 2 lidos behind and didn't have his shoulder harnesses on...and what's AQP got to do with anything ? you are still at the mercy of one of those 9e instructors "out to get you" with a pink slip.
05-12-2012, 07:35 PM
#38
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One of the often overlooked aspects of AQP is no extra training...... Only repeats allowed, no extra training, go to checkride whether student ready or not.....This is based on validating the training curriculum as well as the student
05-12-2012, 09:21 PM
#40
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