txflyer007

I have family in allot of the city's Colgan currently serves with the SF340 and one thing to keep in mine is how horrible the service has been. This is mostly a slight against Colgan managment who cancels at least 2 flights a day to Beaumont and god know's how many more to other city's. I mention this because who ever moves into these routes is going to have to overcome allot of bad experiences....entire companies (mostly the oil and gas types) almost entirely send there personal to IAH by van or car now. Hell some entrepreneur in Beaumont started a shuttle to go back and forth to IAH for 30bucks a pop and guess who his biggest customer is, that's right Colgan. They cancel so many flights a day now that half the time they just send everybody on the shuttle so they don't miss there connections hahaha.

Even if Silver could spare a few 1900's which I think would work fine for the Beaumont, Waco, Victoria type routes would United even allow this? Also would this flying have to be contracted by United or could a Silver or Lakes come in under a code share?

johnso29

Not following you. If ExpressJet E135's are going to take over the EAS routes, but ExpressJet pilots won't be operating them who will be flying them?

sandrich

Yeah I'm lost on that one as well. I thought maybe he was implying that you cant believe what you hear?

SmitteyB

I don't know where you get your performance information, but Colgan IAH SF3 operation has a 99.6% controllable completion factor for the last 12-months rolling. Of which BPT-IAH is 99.8%.

Saabs

There is only one EAS route out of IAH and it's VCT. And I think it's only two or three flights a day.

txflyer007

42.6% of all statistics are made up......My information is from taking this route multiple times, noticed I said taken not flown because Colgan has put me on the "gound shuttle beaumont" van more times than I can count. But don't take my word for it go talk to the rammers, gate agents, or the guy that owns the van company who is making pimp sized grips of paper on canceled flights..... I'm not trying to start an argument here but the bottom line is that IMO Colgan's performance has been terriable for Beaumont and many other city's it serves and I'm simply trying to say that whoever moves into these routes and others has an up hill climb to regain the traveling publics confidence.

Aside from performance I always found the ticket prices for most of the SF340 routes from IAH to be outrageous and completely out of touch with the fact that 80% of these customers live within 2hrs of IAH. I'm not sure if this is a Colgan or United decision but if an operator were to come into these markets like Beaumont, College Station, Waco, Lake Charles ect.. and keep it around 100 bucks per segment, similar to what Silver has done in Montana, than I think you could be successful.

The Juice

TXFLYER is correct. We put out, sadly
out of the crews control, a crap product in Texas. BPT used to have full flights, now there is an average of 10. We have ****ed off an entire community of passengers due to canceled flights, late flights, hot as hell airplanes, dirty airplanes etc...

I've watched first hand at the product diminish greatly over the years.

AxialFlow

No...they won't have to overcome these "bad experiences". These cities are EAS for a reason: because they're in the middle of BFE. They should be thankful to have such crappy service and shut their mouths.

PerpetualFlyer

Ummm only Victoria is EAS...

captain152

... Thank you. The ONLY city in IAH for 9L (CJC, Pinnacolaba) that is EAS is VCT.