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Old 04-02-2012, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingKat
He was talking about the Frontier bankruptcy when Southwest and Republic came in to make competing bids to the management teams plan. Was making the point that the creditors committee has a lot of clout and can do what it wants to get the most return on what they are owed. In other words, we'll do what we can and put a good plan together, but if an outside entity comes up with a better plan in the creditors eyes then everyone is screwed.....
Ok, Im having to listen to 2 different things right now, and heard bits and pieces.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:49 AM
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As a former 9E'er I wish you guys and girls the best of luck. It's a shame how things have turned out so quickly.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Colnago
I don't even wanna know what you're thinking but they're people too who are getting affected.
Granted some of the FAs are getting a little shrill, but the Colgan FA's have every right to be angry. To be told Colgan is shutting down and the only option for staying is to start at Pinnacle as a preferential new hire is a slap in the face. Seniority issues aside, the company could still give them their longevity for non rev and pay purposes...
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by CzechAirman
The military has historically hired a majority of their pilots from the military, so it's illogical to think that all you regional guys are going to populate the major ranks when there are still military pilots looking to get out and go to the majors.
Once again, you're wrong.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bhmdiversion
There are bigger and better things to talk about other than a FA printed contract.
That is one thing that is wrong with this company... There is no mutual respect between employee groups. If it weren't for the flight attendants we wouldn't be flying. Lack of mutual respect, lack of a shared goal and especially a lack of shared knowledge not only between management and the front line employees but all of the employee groups including dispatch, scheduling, all the way to communications with a gate agent is why we are in this mess. No one works together anymore. All this Menke says is that he is abiding by the contract. He passes his questions on to other board members because he lacks a knowledge of what is actually going on in the front line.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Once again, you're wrong.

No I'm not.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
That's funny. All the guys in my NWA class in 2008 were civilian. Delta hired at least 50% civilian in the last round in 2010, most were civilian.
This guy is a clueless bomthrower. Anybody that knows anything about this industry knows the majority of airline pilots at the majors will come from the regionals. Preferences aside, the military is not producing pilots anywhere near the numbers they have in the past.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CzechAirman
No I'm not.
Ok. I guess I don't know who my own airline hired. My class at NWA in 2008 consisted of ALL regional guys. That's just ONE class.

The reality of the situation is that many military guys aren't leaving. With pensions no longer being provided many guys are staying in.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingKat
This guy is a clueless bomthrower. Anybody that knows anything about this industry knows the majority of airline pilots at the majors will come from the regionals. Preferences aside, the military is not producing pilots anywhere near the numbers they have in the past.

Irregardless the fact remains that there will be way more regional pilots looking to get on with a major than their will be seats at the majors for them.
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Originally Posted by CzechAirman
No I'm not.
You are wrong, and what is with you?

AA goes into Chapter 11 and you get on the major side and bust their balls. Pinnacle goes into Chapter 11 and you bust their balls. I told you this with the AA guys and I am saying it for the Pinnacle guys, LEAVE them alone, you don't offer anything useful.

They must love you at UPS.
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