The sky is falling at 9E
03-30-2012, 04:08 PM
#41
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wow, so after 4 years on the 900's should I expect to have to bust my arse to figure out how to fly the 200's or can I still just bring my pillow to class? 
( I am being sarcastic for those that didn't figure that out )
( I am being sarcastic for those that didn't figure that out )
03-30-2012, 04:10 PM
#42
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TVC you can't blame on training.
So how do the training stats bode for 9L when someone pulls back from a stall and gets the flaps retracted in a stall? Don't answer that, it was 1 rogue person that your training dept could not control. Our Jefferson City CA was your Renslow. Not meant to bash but dude please answer how those 3 could have been prevented by our training dept and how yours is so much better than ours because you had that rogue guy crash too...
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03-30-2012, 04:16 PM
#44
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You may be right on a lot of your points but having been trained by 3 different organizations and from other comments I've heard from pilots trained at Eagle and then XJ and then 9E (as well as pilots hired at 9E, trained and then quit to go to Skywest) the training at 9E is a big part of the problem. It just isn't up to par with the rest of the industry. The training philosophy and the training department as a whole needs to be overhauled. It is a century behind the times. Should people not be allowed to upgrade? Probably. But if you are constantly having a 40% failure rate then maybe someone needs to re-examine the training department. The haul damage statistics for 9E don't bode well either for their training philosophy.
Like IB I too would like to know how our training philosophy could have prevented our 3 accidents? 2 of which the aircraft are still flying? Like IB said 2 were caused by pilots who had no business being in an airplane and the other was WX induced with possible faulty info received by the pilot. How can you fault training for 2 CA's that go off the deep end?
03-30-2012, 04:18 PM
#45
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If he's XJ my bad. The 3 crashes still had zero to do with the training department philosophy. What is the philosophy? screw charts, basic aerodynamics, laws of physics and common sense lets see what this puppy can do??
03-30-2012, 06:36 PM
#46
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Very true.... Ground school at 9E has always been the weakest link by far and away, among many, many......many other things....
03-30-2012, 06:51 PM
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i had him for 1 day during initial way back when, thank god for only 1 day. That was enough! Of course, our regular instructor wasn't a pilot either, i don't believe, but he was sh*tloads better than the other guy....
Very true.... Ground school at 9E has always been the weakest link by far and away, among many, many......many other things....
Very true.... Ground school at 9E has always been the weakest link by far and away, among many, many......many other things....
. At least we learned how to give ourselves a tracheotomy!
03-30-2012, 06:54 PM
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