flysooner9

Probably to much heat from the union.

usmc-sgt

I would say the 50+ posts in the last few weeks saying this exact thing would happen answers that in the affirmative.

Trogdor

But it's ok, because you can tell girls at the bar that you fly a "big" airplane. Right before you realize you "forgot" your wallet and she has to pay for the drinks.

Beechlover

The Company imposed pay raise is a direct violation of the RLA status quo protections that exist during contract negotiations. If they had actually implemented the pay raises (outside of a mutually agreed upon contract), it would have been viewed as company "self help" and would have resulted in the union being released to self help (most likely) WITHOUT a 30 day cool off period. With over 98% of the RAH pilot group voting in favor of a strike, is there any doubt as to what would have happened next?

They knew from the moment they made the offer that they could not legally follow through with it. It was a knee jerk reaction to get applicants in the door and in training before they had to reverse it. Their next move will be to blame the IBT for not being able to "do the right thing" by raising their FO pay rates above the level that qualifies a family of four for food stamps assistance. The time "to do the right thing" came and went over four years ago when the contract expired in 2007.

I've got my popcorn out.., lets see in what way the company will step on their collective dicks in the coming weeks. Anybody care to guess, there's a few more plays in BB's play book left to go lol!


RAH management is a classic display of LEADERSHIP BY LACK OF EXAMPLE! They're an embarrasement to those of us who have had to work here these past years under RAH exploitation during this recession. Now that hiring is just beginning at several carriers, attrition is at an all time high with 10 to 30 pilots per month leaving as fast as they can for better jobs. WITH MANY MORE TO FOLLOW.

Is this who you want to work for? Best of luck to us all in dealing with these schoolyard bullies.

PacNWflyer

Anyone that talks about flying at the bar is a schmuck. It's sad that flying is all some people have.

As for RAH. I hope no one applies to this dump--At least until we get a good contract. I'm not holding my breath, though. It's a regional (always will be), and the contract will reflect that.

BoilerUP

God Bless,

Bryan

Boomer

Oh crap, my wallet is also where I keep my Jimmyhats.

Luv2Rotate

On 21hr it's probably better to use Saran Wrap

zoooropa

Devils advocate....

Why not sign an LOA for the new FO rates (company ask) in exchange for __________ (union ask)?

Surely someone on property has come to the realization that the NMB might not release you and the company might not give in to your every demand. I remember a lot of people claiming that a strike would occur by Christmas 2011.

I keep hearing "strike" and "jet blue rates", but no one is talking about the parking of aircraft and pay cuts at other FFD carriers.

I wish you luck with your negotiations, but i have to ask, will you still be patting yourself on the back for turning down a pay raise if/when you find yourself in the same spot this time next year? No sections TA'd, no closer to release (there is no correlation between time spent in mediation and release, some groups have been released very early like the spirit pilots while others have been in mediation for years like the AA FA's), eagle decimated (you saw they are closing the rock, right?), pinnacle pay cuts, $3.30+ a gallon fuel.....

Challenging times. I wonder if your E-Board and NC have allowed expectations to get so unrealistic for such a prolonged period of time that they have backed themselves (and the membership) into a corner.

You all appear to be waiting for the "perfect" deal. Unfortunately, those deals do not exist. Often, by the time this realization occurs, even an "ok" has already sailed away into the sunset.

The union's sole attempt at creating leverage where there is none is the "don't work here" campaign. This may dissuade the lateral move "regional to regional" guys but you will never convince a flight instructor to turn down the job.

Again, I would love for you guys to get JetBlue +1 tomorrow, but from the outside looking in it appears that you guys are exactly where you were back in October 2007. In other words, you have achieved nothing in almost five years.

skyxbomb

I agree with the last poster. First year pay raise being rescinded only hurts the fellow pilots that are jumping ship from their current employer due to furlough/stagnation or even being put out of business. I don't see any regionals having issues filling their new hire classes. Even the lower paying regionals ( as ironic as it may sound ) are doing fine filling classes. I'm sure things will change in a year or two but as of now, raising first year pay feels like a freebie that the union and the NC could've used to their advantage. I doubt the management is losing sleep over this. Like the post above, any CFI or banner tower/ bottom cargo guys will jump at the opportunity to get on with RAH. Pressure should not be put on the potential new hires but rather be put on the NC to get released from mediation since the company is blatantly dragging their feet. I got few friends at RAH and I Jumpseat once in a while and everyone I know there and the people I've met are great guys. It can be the top desired regional again so don't blame people for trying to get on as early as they can. It makes a huge difference in upgrading/schedule/rsv/furlough. I've learned the hard way that by pushing my class date back 2 months for personal reasons costed me 1.5 years extra on furlough.