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#21
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
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If I was going to hire someone I'd pick the guy that has seen a few moderate plus icing and turbulence nights alone with no auto pilot and no glass in a plane that is 30 plus years old. I know it doesn't not directly translate to regionals but the freighter CAN FLY. It's a guarantee if he or she lived past the first week in 135 freight.
#23
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 769
They are not calling you because you are the greatest pilot ever in the whole wide world and would put all their check airman to shame. What company wants to deal with that?
In case you dont pick up on it...that was a bit of sarcasm with a little bit of truth to it. I dont know anything about airline apps, but do you have to write a cover letter of some sort? If so, I might have someone read it as you have a bit of a cocky attitude that shows thru. An unbiased observer might be able to help you with that.
In case you dont pick up on it...that was a bit of sarcasm with a little bit of truth to it. I dont know anything about airline apps, but do you have to write a cover letter of some sort? If so, I might have someone read it as you have a bit of a cocky attitude that shows thru. An unbiased observer might be able to help you with that.
#24
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
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I drive a Dodge Stratus!
#25
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: retired
Posts: 992
I also interviewed with Republic and I hear they are hiring some pattern pounders. Not sure what went wrong with that interview. I really thought, as lax as it was, that they would have called everyone in the group. I must have said something wrong but seems how there were really only a few HR questions and a bunch of questions about my military reserve duty I have no idea which answers were 'wrong.'
#26
They are not calling you because you are the greatest pilot ever in the whole wide world and would put all their check airman to shame. What company wants to deal with that?
In case you dont pick up on it...that was a bit of sarcasm with a little bit of truth to it. I dont know anything about airline apps, but do you have to write a cover letter of some sort? If so, I might have someone read it as you have a bit of a cocky attitude that shows thru. An unbiased observer might be able to help you with that.
In case you dont pick up on it...that was a bit of sarcasm with a little bit of truth to it. I dont know anything about airline apps, but do you have to write a cover letter of some sort? If so, I might have someone read it as you have a bit of a cocky attitude that shows thru. An unbiased observer might be able to help you with that.
Believe it or not when I was asked what makes a good FO my answer was "Someone that is willing to learn from every new experience." I live and fly that way. I can tell you how to fix most issues with a 1963 KC135R but couldn't tell you how to change your engine on a 95 Corolla.
I can tell you how to manage the geared engines of a Cessna 404/421 but can't tell you what to plan on for burn rates in a given PT6.
We all have more learning to do. All I was saying is that MOST flight instructors do not get the real world flying experience that ALL 135 [IFR] pilots get.
#27
Your eyes can move as fast as they want, but it's all about interpretation. A good instrument scan is not about how fast you can move your eyes around the instruments, it's about how you can interpret one instrument and then know what the others are probably doing, hence why the scan revolves around the AI. And if your eyes are wondering all over the cockpit you might want to work on your scan!
To the OP: Hang in there. As others have mentioned before, make sure you show your cover letter and resume to a few of your friends/acquaintances. It sometimes helps to ask strangers since they won't really care about hurting your feelings. If you show it to your friends, they may be less than honest for the obvious reasons. Just a thought.
#28
1. You do not have to tell an interviewer about how great your flying skills are. If they are a pilot they will probably think that you are better than they are when they see where you have been flying. If they are HR they don't care and they will ot be impressed. They will see you recitation as bragging and a potential unhappy future problem. Remember: You can let them assume that you are better than you are or you can open you r mouth and remove all doubt.
2. Do not EVER use terms such as PATTERN POUNDERS! If the pilot interviewing you was an instructor or he/she was a TRAINING SCHOOL pilot you just ruined your chances of getting hired there.
3. NO INTERVIEW IS "LAID BACK" HR designs them that way to get you to loosen up and say things such as pattern pounders etc. They pay particular attention to what you say when not in the interview room. They watch how you meet and greet the other applicants. If you start to brag about your experiences that is a red flag.
4. No answer should ever be longer than 1 to 1.5 minutes. All answers should have a begining, middle, and an end. If you tell of a mistake always mention what you learned from it. Other than criminal offenses, and recent repeated bad driving, most things are explainable.
5. Buy a recent book on Airline interviews, and no matter how stupid it sounds, FOLLOW IT!
I know that the above description is probably not you at all but then it doesn't really matter does it. It is all in how you are perceived in the few short hours of the interview process. I hope that this helps and good luck to you. I am a second career person who came to the airlines 12 years ago after retirement and I have to tell you that flying beats the hell out of working for a living. I have been forced to obtain 7 type ratings and work at 6 different airlines in order to stay employed. I am presently on my 7th job in 4.5 years. (2 outside flying just to remind me how bad it is to actually work) If yo really want to be a pilot then don't give up. I am envious of you having your whole career in front of you.I am sorry I will only get to do it for 8 more years.
#29
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 744 CA
Posts: 4,772
:-) Nope no cover letter there. My only argument is that I can fly better than most that have don't have the same level of experience. Now that being said... someone with 3,000 hours without the automation can fly a LOT better than I can.
Believe it or not when I was asked what makes a good FO my answer was "Someone that is willing to learn from every new experience." I live and fly that way. I can tell you how to fix most issues with a 1963 KC135R but couldn't tell you how to change your engine on a 95 Corolla.
I can tell you how to manage the geared engines of a Cessna 404/421 but can't tell you what to plan on for burn rates in a given PT6.
We all have more learning to do. All I was saying is that MOST flight instructors do not get the real world flying experience that ALL 135 [IFR] pilots get.
Believe it or not when I was asked what makes a good FO my answer was "Someone that is willing to learn from every new experience." I live and fly that way. I can tell you how to fix most issues with a 1963 KC135R but couldn't tell you how to change your engine on a 95 Corolla.
I can tell you how to manage the geared engines of a Cessna 404/421 but can't tell you what to plan on for burn rates in a given PT6.
We all have more learning to do. All I was saying is that MOST flight instructors do not get the real world flying experience that ALL 135 [IFR] pilots get.
#30
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Co-Captain
Posts: 118
Do you have a 4 year college degree?
You sound like you "deserve" an interview. I would take the advice to tone down the "I can fly an airplane better than someone else."
With your times I would imagine you knew somebody that worked at an airline you were applying to that could give you a letter of rec. If that's not the case you need to ask yourself why you don't know someone. Right now things are still fairly competitive.
You sound like you "deserve" an interview. I would take the advice to tone down the "I can fly an airplane better than someone else."
With your times I would imagine you knew somebody that worked at an airline you were applying to that could give you a letter of rec. If that's not the case you need to ask yourself why you don't know someone. Right now things are still fairly competitive.
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