Another drunk pilot
02-17-2012, 12:05 PM
#61
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Think McFly. Think.
02-17-2012, 12:05 PM
#62
You scratched my anchor
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Do I have compassion for alcoholics? Some, yes. However, I will never recognize it as a disease. Disorder, maybe. Cancer is a disease. Willingly dumping a fifth of vodka down the hatch isn't a disease. Calling it a disease is just the sentiment of todays world: it's not MY fault that I drink.......it's a disease. Bull crapola. Each and everyone of us have free will. Leukemia, that's a disease.
02-17-2012, 12:07 PM
#63
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Just because somebody uses bad judgement while using alcohol doesn't make him or her an alcoholic. Who knows what is going on in this person's life maybe just maybe they made a mistake. What happens to Doctors or Nurses when they show up for work drunk do they automatically lose there jobs never to return. I don't think so. Give this person a break, nobody is perfect.
But seriously, wait til a drunk driver hurts or even kills someone you love. We'll see how forgiving you are then.
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02-17-2012, 12:11 PM
#64
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There is a time and place to hit the sauce, it's not at work. I feel bad for the dude because he is going to lose a lot from this, but I don't feel bad for an alcoholic, or anyone for that matter, who endangers peoples lives because they cannot control themselves.
I'm also not saying this guy was indeed an alcoholic, I'm speaking in general terms.
02-17-2012, 01:06 PM
#65
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There is plenty to learn from this event. One of which is to NOT bring up your fun the night before on the hotel van or lobby. Have fun on the overnight, watch your consumption and keep your mouth shut the next day.
02-17-2012, 01:53 PM
#66
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The fact of the matter is they didn't get in the cockpit and crash the plane and kill people. It is no different than somebody taking the keys away from somebody who thinks they can drive home after a night at the bar or party. They did make the mistake of thinking they could drive but somebody intervened. A person isn't guilty of the crime until they commit it, and conspiring to drive drunk and not is not a crime. I don't know what the regs say about flying. I myself don't drink on the overnights and reserve that for my home life. For all we know they stopped 12 hours before but were just to drunk to sober up.
02-17-2012, 01:54 PM
#67
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Getting fired from your regional FO job is losing a lot? The future is so bright for this industry . . . all those potential wages he is going to lose. He'll retire with more in his bank account in his new career than the majority of us regional pilots selling our souls for 30K a year with no end in sight.
02-17-2012, 01:57 PM
#68
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Getting fired from your regional FO job is losing a lot? The future is so bright for this industry . . . all those potential wages he is going to lose. He'll retire with more in his bank account in his new career than the majority of us regional pilots selling our souls for 30K a year with no end in sight.
02-17-2012, 02:31 PM
#69
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Getting fired from your regional FO job is losing a lot? The future is so bright for this industry . . . all those potential wages he is going to lose. He'll retire with more in his bank account in his new career than the majority of us regional pilots selling our souls for 30K a year with no end in sight.
Thought it was the captain
02-17-2012, 02:34 PM
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No point in going too deep deep into this but I'm one of the XJT crew members who was on the hotel van with this crew the night before. Our layover was a little over 9 hours and they took the shuttle 30 minutes before us the next morning. I don't know of any pilots who are going out to the bars for even one drink on a minimum rest overnight, especially with a show that early. Whatever happened, I doubt it occurred at the hotel bar.
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