Another drunk pilot
02-16-2012, 02:31 PM
#11
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No. He Wont. It does not work that way. Once you step foot on the aircraft, you are considered to have intentions of operating the aircraft. If you cross that line impaired, you are toast. You will face criminal charges, the Faa WILL revoke your license and medical, he will be fired, game over. You do not get the chance to enter the program after crossing this line and getting caught.
It would seem to me that if he got dressed in his uniform, didn't mention his condition, rode in the hotel van to the airport, passed through security, and made it to the gate - - - all of those would count as an 'intention to step foot on the aircraft'.
I'm asking. Would it make a difference if security stopped rather than having made it through to the gate? Maybe the way I'm looking at it - 'intention to step onto the aircraft' was just a poor choice of words - in a legal sense in any matter.
USMCFLYR
02-16-2012, 02:47 PM
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Is there really some point to cross here when you are considered to have the intention to step foot on the aircraft?
It would seem to me that if he got dressed in his uniform, didn't mention his condition, rode in the hotel van to the airport, passed through security, and made it to the gate - - - all of those would count as an 'intention to step foot on the aircraft'.
I'm asking. Would it make a difference if security stopped rather than having made it through to the gate? Maybe the way I'm looking at it - 'intention to step onto the aircraft' was just a poor choice of words - in a legal sense in any matter.
USMCFLYR
It would seem to me that if he got dressed in his uniform, didn't mention his condition, rode in the hotel van to the airport, passed through security, and made it to the gate - - - all of those would count as an 'intention to step foot on the aircraft'.
I'm asking. Would it make a difference if security stopped rather than having made it through to the gate? Maybe the way I'm looking at it - 'intention to step onto the aircraft' was just a poor choice of words - in a legal sense in any matter.
USMCFLYR
Last edited by clearprop; 02-16-2012 at 02:56 PM. Reason: just for the heck of it
02-16-2012, 02:51 PM
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I'm not a lawyer. I dont speak legalise. What I do know is that if he blew over .04, he's toast. In order to get into hims or a similar rehab program, he would have had to self disclose. You have a very very hard hill to climb if you get caught. Its not impossible. Its been done. But it is very expensive and a very long process.
02-16-2012, 03:28 PM
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Hope she was worth it. DOH!!
02-16-2012, 03:39 PM
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I bet the van driver who snitched feels like a hero right now. And don't worry I'm not saying he is a jerk for telling on the suspected drunk pilot or anything, nor am I saying to turn the other cheek.
With this driver being the one who called it in, I bet this week 50 other hotel van drivers wanna be the next hero of the day and call the cops on crews they might suspect so they themselves can feel heroic. Just like TSA screeners love to be the hero who nails the next drunk pilot.
With this driver being the one who called it in, I bet this week 50 other hotel van drivers wanna be the next hero of the day and call the cops on crews they might suspect so they themselves can feel heroic. Just like TSA screeners love to be the hero who nails the next drunk pilot.
02-16-2012, 03:45 PM
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This scenario should be used in every shuttle driver tipping thread for the rest of time. Might have saved his/her career for a dollar.
02-16-2012, 03:50 PM
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Is there really some point to cross here when you are considered to have the intention to step foot on the aircraft?
It would seem to me that if he got dressed in his uniform, didn't mention his condition, rode in the hotel van to the airport, passed through security, and made it to the gate - - - all of those would count as an 'intention to step foot on the aircraft'.
I'm asking. Would it make a difference if security stopped rather than having made it through to the gate? Maybe the way I'm looking at it - 'intention to step onto the aircraft' was just a poor choice of words - in a legal sense in any matter.
USMCFLYR
It would seem to me that if he got dressed in his uniform, didn't mention his condition, rode in the hotel van to the airport, passed through security, and made it to the gate - - - all of those would count as an 'intention to step foot on the aircraft'.
I'm asking. Would it make a difference if security stopped rather than having made it through to the gate? Maybe the way I'm looking at it - 'intention to step onto the aircraft' was just a poor choice of words - in a legal sense in any matter.
USMCFLYR
02-16-2012, 03:53 PM
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No. He Wont. It does not work that way. Once you step foot on the aircraft, you are considered to have intentions of operating the aircraft. If you cross that line impaired, you are toast. You will face criminal charges, the Faa WILL revoke your license and medical, he will be fired, game over. You do not get the chance to enter the program after crossing this line and getting caught.
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