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Old 02-21-2012, 12:33 PM
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Old 02-21-2012, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
No. I am not. You would be confused if you are not aware that you can drive with a BAC as high as .07% and still be legal. At least in the state I live. Do you think a .03 feels much different than .02? At my airline we can fly with .02 or less. The pilot in this article wasn't necessarily legally drink. Just over the limit for his company. Yet the title of this thread is "another drunk pilot". Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't.

CrakPipe is onto something here. Actually, your driving abilities improve up until .04 BrAC, above .05 BrAC they drastically dimish.

Read up on some studies, the research is there.
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Old 02-21-2012, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by citation35hf
CrakPipe is onto something here. Actually, your driving abilities improve up until .04 BrAC, above .05 BrAC they drastically dimish.

Read up on some studies, the research is there.
it's not the liquor that helps your driving abilities...you are doing something the better half of your brain says you shouldn't be doing, so you are being ultra cautious....using cruise control, turn signals, complete stops, not texting, driving like grandma to keep from getting pulled over.
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by citation35hf
CrakPipe is onto something here. Actually, your driving abilities improve up until .04 BrAC, above .05 BrAC they drastically dimish.

Read up on some studies, the research is there.
it's not the liquor that helps your driving abilities...you are doing something the better half of your brain says you shouldn't be doing, so you are being ultra cautious....using cruise control, turn signals, complete stops, not texting, driving like grandma to keep from getting pulled over.
Sounds like a bunch of prudes participating in this discussion. Learn the laws. .07 or less is not drunk driving. I can tell some of you are scared of alcohol.
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mooney
it's not the liquor that helps your driving abilities...you are doing something the better half of your brain says you shouldn't be doing, so you are being ultra cautious....using cruise control, turn signals, complete stops, not texting, driving like grandma to keep from getting pulled over.
And that's a bad thing because ...
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Old 02-21-2012, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
Sounds like a bunch of prudes participating in this discussion. Learn the laws. .07 or less is not drunk driving. I can tell some of you are scared of alcohol.
scared prudes? no some of us just aren't dumb enough to admit we drive impared or are "I know how to drink and drive and skirt the law" on a public forum that any lawyer/jury will have a field day with when you injure someone in an accident and blow .07. You say what's the big deal between .03 and .07? Well ask the cop what the big deal is between .07 and .08. You sound like a 13 year old challenging us to a drinking contest or the frat boy at the bar that thinks he can kick everyones ass then gets knocked out by a figure skater. And tell the laws to my friend who spent 2 weeks in jail for DUI for blowing .06......people are affected differently, you don't have to be legally drunk to be affected by it (and be punished for it).
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Originally Posted by CaptainCarl
And that's a bad thing because ...

I don't recall implying it was bad.....
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Originally Posted by mooney
scared prudes? no some of us just aren't dumb enough to admit we drive impared or are "I know how to drink and drive and skirt the law" on a public forum that any lawyer/jury will have a field day with when you injure someone in an accident and blow .07. You say what's the big deal between .03 and .07? Well ask the cop what the big deal is between .07 and .08. You sound like a 13 year old challenging us to a drinking contest or the frat boy at the bar that thinks he can kick everyones ass then gets knocked out by a figure skater. And tell the laws to my friend who spent 2 weeks in jail for DUI for blowing .06......people are affected differently, you don't have to be legally drunk to be affected by it (and be punished for it).
Isn't that why it's called legally drunk? I'm not calling you a liar but your friend may have lied to you. There has got to be more to that story than driving with .06 BAC and then spending 2 weeks in jail.
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Originally Posted by mooney
I don't recall implying it was bad.....
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Originally Posted by BelowMins
Isn't that why it's called legally drunk? I'm not calling you a liar but your friend may have lied to you. There has got to be more to that story than driving with .06 BAC and then spending 2 weeks in jail.
You don't need to blow .08 or over to be convicted of DUI. It only needs to be proven the driver was impaired. The law is not about the BAC; the law is "driving under the influence."

In most states, .08 BAC is considered prima facie evidence that the driver is impaired. In the strict legal sense, this means that unless the defendant is able to impeach the evidence provided by the BAC test, that alone is sufficient evidence to convict. BAC, however, is only one piece of evidence. It can still be proven through other evidence that the driver is impaired, resulting in a DUI conviction even with a BAC below .08.

If you are pulled over or are in an accident and the police find probable cause (e.g., open container, smell of alcohol, erratic driving, field sobriety test) for a breath test on which you blow .06, the police have a a lot of evidence and a strong case against you. Not the prima facie evidence of blowing at or over .08 but still enough evidence to build a strong case.

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