PIC turboprop less marketable than PIC jet?
02-14-2012, 12:31 PM
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1: Do the legacies care weather you were a CA on a CRJ700, E170, or a SAAB?
No, they don't care. They look for good experience that made you grow up and take responsibility seriously. However if they don't like you and don't want to hire you (for million of other reasons) they make you believe that "if only I had real jet PIC I would have been hired". You can find plenty of peolple who believe that.
2: If one has jet SIC time and gets a DEC Turboprop job, is that person going to be less marketable than the all Jet time with PIC applicant?
My public English education fails me again and this doen't make much sence to me. SIC time is worthless. Get PIC in anything you can. If you hear about SIC's getting picked up by majors - that is because they are connected or airline is increadably hurting for apps.
No, they don't care. They look for good experience that made you grow up and take responsibility seriously. However if they don't like you and don't want to hire you (for million of other reasons) they make you believe that "if only I had real jet PIC I would have been hired". You can find plenty of peolple who believe that.
2: If one has jet SIC time and gets a DEC Turboprop job, is that person going to be less marketable than the all Jet time with PIC applicant?
My public English education fails me again and this doen't make much sence to me. SIC time is worthless. Get PIC in anything you can. If you hear about SIC's getting picked up by majors - that is because they are connected or airline is increadably hurting for apps.
02-14-2012, 01:04 PM
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Or they WANT SIC only guys because they figure nobody else will when they start hiring, meaning they have a stable FO base that won't be jumping ship a year after arriving, costing them big training $$$s. (see Jetblue/Spirit.)
02-14-2012, 09:55 PM
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02-15-2012, 04:42 AM
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Beg to differ. While in training last year, DAL released 6 new hires last summer because they could not fly the DC-9 (as told by a very good friend of mine who happened to be a DC-9 instructor). All six had zero "steam gauge" time, just glass. They had no crosscheck and were let go.
02-15-2012, 08:27 AM
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Beg to differ. While in training last year, DAL released 6 new hires last summer because they could not fly the DC-9 (as told by a very good friend of mine who happened to be a DC-9 instructor). All six had zero "steam gauge" time, just glass. They had no crosscheck and were let go.
02-15-2012, 11:53 AM
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Isn't that the norm these days? If one goes the regional route 99% of the people will be flying an all glass aircraft, except those that fly a Saab or Brasilia which still have ehsi and eadi. Be hard pressed to find a steam gauge regional at the majority of places. I can foresee a lot more troubles for people going to the 9.
02-15-2012, 01:35 PM
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there are thousands of us regional guys that got our IFR ratings in pre-1995 steam gauge mooneys, beeches, pipers etc then went on to fly 135 on steam gauges in turbines and twins. Not everyone here learned in a glass Diamond or Cirrus and went straight to an RJ....those scan skills will come back to this with experience.
I wasn't trying to offend steam guys, I'm one!
02-15-2012, 07:01 PM
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Good luck to those who get the chance. And that is meant in a very good way.
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