PIC turboprop less marketable than PIC jet?
#21
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Then again, what do I know. I've been in this industry for 13 years and I'm still stuck at a regional.
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It honestly will just depend on what airline you want to fly for.
Check out their hiring requirements and see what they're looking for.
There's "Minimum requirements" and there's "Preferred requirements". Look at both if you want to be competitive.
But honestly if/when you get the interview it's not going to matter much what's on your resume. It's going to matter how you interact with everyone around you and if they can see themselves flying a 4-day trip with you.
My .02
Check out their hiring requirements and see what they're looking for.
There's "Minimum requirements" and there's "Preferred requirements". Look at both if you want to be competitive.
But honestly if/when you get the interview it's not going to matter much what's on your resume. It's going to matter how you interact with everyone around you and if they can see themselves flying a 4-day trip with you.
My .02
#25
Quit worrying about what HR wants and worry about what will give you good quality of life, decent pay, and a sense of accomplishment regardless of what you fly. If you base your entire career path on a percieved roadmap you believe is approved by (enter legacy of choice here), you will learn the very hard lesson that by the time you meet that standard you set, the standards will have likely changed. Why is everyone so hung up on this,"I have to fly a jet for the majors" kick. When did aviation cease to be a job that you found THRU NETWORKING that offered good pay, a great QOL, and working with a good group of people regardless of what you fly. Why are people willing to sacrifice all those things in the attempt to get to a Legacy early. Instead of looking at it like you are, take a step back say to yourself I will find a job that I enjoy, have fun with and I like the people, doesnt matter what I am flying. Now sit back till you meet the mins and then apply. You WILL be a much more rounded happy pilot which will come out in your interview for the "Legacy", which may just equate to getting thte job. But then what do I know, Ive never flown a jet, I probably wasnt good enough
#27
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1000 PIC TT is becoming a relic of the past. Urban myth. More people leaving 9E lately are mid-time zero-PIC jet FO's. Captains with PIC time are either waiting for the magical call from Southwest, or are happy making $100k and can't take a pay cut.
#28
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Agreed. I believe there were a few fos hired at delta last time around. In this job market, that says something.
#29
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A lot of us have. You really need to take in one of the job fairs such as ERAU where you can speak with different hiring managers, only to have them tell you that without jet and glass time, your chances are slim. The 1000 TPIC box is being replaced by the 500 hrs jet time box, and similarly the mid-size to large jet type rating box. I did find one job that wanted a boat load of PT-6 time, fwiw.
#30
All good points.
Bigger is better than smaller, jet is better than prop, glass is better than steam and FMS is better than point to point.
I would without a doubt take the closer turbine PIC in a prop over the jet PIC at a later date. One thing that is common is that 1000 TPIC is a requirement for most..id get that box checked as soon as possible. Once you have those hours you can start looking elsewhere for other options to enhance your resume.
As others have said the most important thing you can do to enhance your resume is network. No amount of experience will get you in the door faster than an uncle on the hiring board.
For what its worth..I was hired by jetBlue with no jet PIC. I only had turbo prop PIC and a handful of jet SIC hours. I did have glass and FMS if it was worth anything. I cant speak for a legacy carrier though as I did not apply to any.
Bigger is better than smaller, jet is better than prop, glass is better than steam and FMS is better than point to point.
I would without a doubt take the closer turbine PIC in a prop over the jet PIC at a later date. One thing that is common is that 1000 TPIC is a requirement for most..id get that box checked as soon as possible. Once you have those hours you can start looking elsewhere for other options to enhance your resume.
As others have said the most important thing you can do to enhance your resume is network. No amount of experience will get you in the door faster than an uncle on the hiring board.
For what its worth..I was hired by jetBlue with no jet PIC. I only had turbo prop PIC and a handful of jet SIC hours. I did have glass and FMS if it was worth anything. I cant speak for a legacy carrier though as I did not apply to any.
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