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Old 02-12-2012, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoking hole
782, your naivety is astounding. You may not be a new hire but you post like one. EAS contracts can be eliminated at a whim, just like Delta did, prove that you are running them at a loss and they are gone. The US government would kill to dump them as well. The Saab feed for United could be dumped without even being noticed by United. Dump the Saabs, furlough the staffing and bring them back to fill in as our situation improves. There would be VERY few out of seniority furloughs.
Ummmmm WRONG, you have absolutely NOOOO clue what you are talking about. EAS routes can NOT be eliminated on a whim. The service must be continued until a new carrier is selected. Here, let me show you:

Regulations.gov

Open the PDF and read....
Oh snap...no you di'int
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Old 02-12-2012, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer
Ummmmm WRONG, you have absolutely NOOOO clue what you are talking about. EAS routes can NOT be eliminated on a whim. The service must be continued until a new carrier is selected. Here, let me show you:

Regulations.gov

Open the PDF and read....
Absolutely correct. If an operator intends to abandon a route, they must continue to operate it until someone else to take it over is found.
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Old 02-12-2012, 05:27 PM
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Absolutely correct. If an operator intends to abandon a route, they must continue to operate it until someone else to take it over is found.
Exhibit A: Saab BOS flying
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Old 02-12-2012, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer
Ummmmm WRONG, you have absolutely NOOOO clue what you are talking about. EAS routes can NOT be eliminated on a whim. The service must be continued until a new carrier is selected. Here, let me show you:

Regulations.gov

Open the PDF and read....
UUMMMMMMMMMMMM..... If you don't think there isn't a handful of carriers that would be more than happy to step in when..... on a whim... we decide to bail...you are nuts. Finding another carrier to take our place is as easy as dumping the routes.
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Old 02-12-2012, 05:51 PM
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UUMMMMMMMMMMMM..... If you don't think there isn't a handful of carriers that would be more than happy to step in when..... on a whim... we decide to bail...you are nuts. Finding another carrier to take our place is as easy as dumping the routes.
Ok, so instead of saying that you were incorrect with your previous statement, you're going to imply your previous incorrect statement to mean something else?

CFIs...all together.....lets say it....Rationalization!!
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Old 02-12-2012, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer
Ummmmm WRONG, you have absolutely NOOOO clue what you are talking about. EAS routes can NOT be eliminated on a whim. The service must be continued until a new carrier is selected. Here, let me show you:

Regulations.gov

Open the PDF and read....

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Old 02-12-2012, 06:05 PM
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Ok, so instead of saying that you were incorrect with your previous statement, you're going to imply your previous incorrect statement to mean something else?

CFIs...all together.....lets say it....Rationalization!!
Nope.... I'm sticking with what I said. 782 wants to hold onto hope that the Saab and his seat will have to stay because of EAS. I still say that those contracts that you want to stake your claim in don't mean spit. I get that another carrier must be found... Delta proved that it takes about a month to replace an EAS carrier.
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Old 02-12-2012, 06:09 PM
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Nope.... I'm sticking with what I said. 782 wants to hold onto hope that the Saab and his seat will have to stay because of EAS. I still say that those contracts that you want to stake your claim in don't mean spit. I get that another carrier must be found... Delta proved that it takes about a month to replace an EAS carrier.
Dude, seriously, you're wrong AGAIN!!!! If you would go to the website you would see that the request for proposals was posted on November 23, 2011 and as of today, February 12, 2012 there STILL has not been a replacement. I'm not so good at math but I'm pretty sure November to February is longer than one month.. Seriously, get your facts straight!
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Old 02-12-2012, 06:11 PM
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And YES I am a pilot that does advocate furlough. If furloughing a few saves the jobs of many. I would even wager to say that 75% of the seniority feels the same way. Its an airline not a charity.
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Old 02-12-2012, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer
Dude, seriously, you're wrong AGAIN!!!! If you would go to the website you would see that the request for proposals was posted on November 23, 2011 and as of today, February 12, 2012 there STILL has not been a replacement. I'm not so good at math but I'm pretty sure November to February is longer than one month.. Seriously, get your facts straight!
Fine I'm wrong you all win. I'm dumb your smart. I'm ugly your gorgeous. Blah Blah Blah..... we all held onto the same hope when the Xj Saab's were being parked. I wouldn't go buy a house just yet if you're on the Saab. I was called by Pen Air out of the blue. Apparently they are already picking up our mess in BOS and are looking for more flying on the east coast. Maybe its from the other Saab carriers in the North East.
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