captainv

Strange. Being NFP in the sim is typically a lot more demanding than being FP when you're into non-normals.

iceraide

Thats kinda what I thought too...how can they not give me the experience of PM (as its called here)...I really don't want to wait until IOE to get slapped in the face with all the stuff I am supposed to be familiar with...

I plan on being pretty straight forward with my instructor today with all of your comments....thanks!

mooney

we do that all the time at Pinnacle. Perfectly legal. it can actually have its benefits, you are at your pace the whole time and not at the mercy of a weak sim partner.

TopNotch

Enjoy your enthusiasm now. You'll need your fun memories, when your knee deep in reserve and a year later, saying to yourself 'what the he77 was I thinking?'

mooney

Once you've run 1 abnormal/emergency QRH successfully during training you've run them all. Same goes for FMS work. Look at the requirements for any check ride or even a type ride. It is all maneuvers and command skills. Not PNF stuff. You get signed off on your PC/type rides/initials by being graded as PF. On the check ride though your instructor will probably have you do something like program a hold or intercept a radial, and go over the QH in the oral/prebrief. It might be more work being the non fly, but they don't have to make decisions, they just sit there and do as told. The whole point of the check ride is mastery of the aircraft and CRM/judgement, something the PNF doesn't really have to deal with. Learning the PM stuff takes maybe 10% of the program. The rest as said before is all profiles callouts and maneuvers.

higney85

I had the same thing happen in initial and I was "odd man out" for upgrade. All my sims were shortened. It was actually a blessing. My PNF for each event was a check airman or a sim instructor. They want to get you through and will really help you out if they see something that you are doing wrong (you will do things wrong, that's why you are in training). For studying on your own, once you know the books, CHAIR FLY. It looks goofy, so doing it out of view in the others may help.

You can also study with others. You are most likely not in a class of 1. I even taught my wife the profiles, gave her the book, and ran it. Teaching it is mastering it.

*Caution, you may be calling for the QRH in the middle of the night and will need to be informed that you are on the ground and the fire is extinguished... I slapped her leg once in the middle of the night after studying for a PC (she obviously didn't bring the flaps up as commanded...). She now hates when I have a sim event because she is afraid she will get hit in the middle of the night a few days prior. It's a joke in our house now.

Plenty of folks have made it through solo. IMHO it's actually better since the guy next to you knows exactly what you should be doing and when you should be doing it.

mooney

What do you tell a chick with 2 black eyes? For the 3rd time, bring the &&&& flaps up!!!

TheFly

Just blame the sim....it's always the sim's fault. After all, it's not the "real airplane".

frmrdashtrash

I studied my rear off during PDT initial. Drank my rear off during the others.

p1anejet

When I said ego, I didn't mean like my big ego, just keeping a part of the psyche intact. You guys all have such helpful hints, I appreciate all the great replies. It's nice to know that this phase of training is tough on more than just me. Now, keep the funny and helpful responses coming!