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Old 01-15-2012, 08:03 AM
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Everybody knows turboprop time is inferior to jet time. Expressjet is hiring if you want to make yourself marketable for the majors.
Gee you sound like you went to one of those pilot factory flight schools. I've flown both. It takes more skills, knowledge, and flying ability to manhandle a turbo-prop. Enough said.
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Originally Posted by newarkblows
The q 400 has a small baggage compartment and has had to leave bags behind on full flights. Usually they throw them on the next flight. What CAL found out when they originally brought in CHQ was that when you start bumping people due to weight restrictions, or leaving bags behind forcing compensation it adds up to a pretty sizeable number fast.
I have never had to leave bags in the Q400 even with a full flight. It is rare to get the aft baggage compartment full, and the few times it does happen, we just put the extra in the forward hold. Also, the newer Q400s have nearly normal sized overhead bins, so fewer bags get gate checked than on most RJs.
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Old 01-15-2012, 08:17 AM
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Gee you sound like you went to one of those pilot factory flight schools. I've flown both. It takes more skills, knowledge, and flying ability to manhandle a turbo-prop. Enough said.
If that were true they would pay people more money to fly turbo props. All ATP's has a jet transition course you can take to get you back up to speed on the jets. I would hurry up and get your 1000 jet pic if you want to catch the next big wave of hiring at the majors. They are going to pass right over the guys with turbo prop only time.
You are obviously just taking the ****, now
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Old 01-15-2012, 08:31 AM
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I believe Chautauqua still has at least 1 135 flying out of MKE that is subleased from CAL. But that'll be returned once the DOT allows them to stop the EAS flying out of MKE. There were 4 or 5 subleased for F9 Express out of MKE at one time.
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Originally Posted by Laxrox43
Gee you sound like you went to one of those pilot factory flight schools. I've flown both. It takes more skills, knowledge, and flying ability to manhandle a turbo-prop. Enough said.
Flying itself aside. TP time is inferior to jet time. After speaking to various recruiters from various companies, ESPECIALLY overseas, a jet guy is more likely to get on somewhere then a turbo-prop driver (unless he is applying at a turbo-prop carrier). Even if it does take more piloting skills and effort to fly a turbo-prop properly. And I have been flying one for the past 3.5 years.. and wish I could replace it with jet time, being as that is what lots of employers seem to prefer.

Stupid? Yes, but it seems to be the case, more and more here in the U.S, where traditionally that hasn't been the case, but especially anywhere overseas, where your TP time is about as good as piston time.
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Originally Posted by newarkblows
The emb 135 can usually fly full with a full load of bags as long as there isn't a big alt fuel burn. It makes sense if you have really light loads between two points. Ever since CAL started charging for bags the carry ons have been adding up. The q 400 has a small baggage compartment and has had to leave bags behind on full flights. Usually they throw them on the next flight. What CAL found out when they originally brought in CHQ was that when you start bumping people due to weight restrictions, or leaving bags behind forcing compensation it adds up to a pretty sizeable number fast.

These 135's are already being paid for by CAL who was able to work out a deal with the lease holder. The replacement parts are already there, the replacement parts cost a hell of a lot less when you are ordering for 245 airplanes vs 30 airplanes, no new maintenance guys needed, no new pilot training required, and if it breaks there are 245 more of them to find a replacement to still operate the flight.
Ummmmm no? I've never seen that happen with bags. I've had to get rid of 1 standby once, and that was only because we had close to max fuel.
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by stoki
Flying itself aside. TP time is inferior to jet time. After speaking to various recruiters from various companies, ESPECIALLY overseas, a jet guy is more likely to get on somewhere then a turbo-prop driver (unless he is applying at a turbo-prop carrier). Even if it does take more piloting skills and effort to fly a turbo-prop properly. And I have been flying one for the past 3.5 years.. and wish I could replace it with jet time, being as that is what lots of employers seem to prefer.

Stupid? Yes, but it seems to be the case, more and more here in the U.S, where traditionally that hasn't been the case, but especially anywhere overseas, where your TP time is about as good as piston time.
Was wondering which companies here in the US that you have talked to prefer jet vs turboprop time?
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Originally Posted by Laxrox43
Gee you sound like you went to one of those pilot factory flight schools. I've flown both. It takes more skills, knowledge, and flying ability to manhandle a turbo-prop. Enough said.
Flying itself aside. TP time is inferior to jet time. After speaking to various recruiters from various companies, ESPECIALLY overseas, a jet guy is more likely to get on somewhere then a turbo-prop driver (unless he is applying at a turbo-prop carrier). Even if it does take more piloting skills and effort to fly a turbo-prop properly. And I have been flying one for the past 3.5 years.. and wish I could replace it with jet time, being as that is what lots of employers seem to prefer.

Stupid? Yes, but it seems to be the case, more and more here in the U.S, where traditionally that hasn't been the case, but especially anywhere overseas, where your TP time is about as good as piston time.
It's all relative in many ways. The RJ CA may get the interview call before the prop CA but you never know who will be sitting across from you during your interview. You just may find yourself being interviewed by a check airman who came up on props and appreciates the skill set of prop pilots vs jet pilots.

You never know
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Originally Posted by g-code
The memo said the 5 135s were for additional block hours....
"Along the same lines, we were able to negotiate the addition of five ERJ135s that have either been parked or have been operating at other United Express carriers. These additional aircraft will go into service in April."

Don't think it said that....
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:44 AM
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If that were true they would pay people more money to fly turbo props. All ATP's has a jet transition course you can take to get you back up to speed on the jets. I would hurry up and get your 1000 jet pic if you want to catch the next big wave of hiring at the majors. They are going to pass right over the guys with turbo prop only time.
If this is the case then a Boeing product should pay more than an Airbus, an MD-80 should pay more than a 757... A 767 pilot should be paid more than a 777 pilot because they have to fly the 757/767 (more information required to know). What is your flight experience and I am not just talking TT, what airplanes have you flown and for how long?
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