Attention Regional Pilots
12-19-2011, 06:36 PM
#1
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Posts: 112
Attention Regional Pilots
This could be our opportunity to stand up for ourselves and the future generations of regional pilots.
We need to make a statement that we are done being thrown into the fire every time there has to be cuts. WE are not the ones responsible for the failing of these companies.
I hope 100% of PNCL pilots vote NO to Pay Cuts. I hope that 100% of other regionals vote NO to Pay Cuts.
As some background I will probably be furloughed if PNCL declares BK. I understand that, I'm just sick of my fellow pilots, colleagues, and friends getting shafted in this industry.
We need to make a statement that we are done being thrown into the fire every time there has to be cuts. WE are not the ones responsible for the failing of these companies.
I hope 100% of PNCL pilots vote NO to Pay Cuts. I hope that 100% of other regionals vote NO to Pay Cuts.
As some background I will probably be furloughed if PNCL declares BK. I understand that, I'm just sick of my fellow pilots, colleagues, and friends getting shafted in this industry.
12-19-2011, 06:42 PM
#2
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 67
This could be our opportunity to stand up for ourselves and the future generations of regional pilots.
We need to make a statement that we are done being thrown into the fire every time there has to be cuts. WE are not the ones responsible for the failing of these companies.
I hope 100% of PNCL pilots vote NO to Pay Cuts. I hope that 100% of other regionals vote NO to Pay Cuts.
As some background I will probably be furloughed if PNCL declares BK. I understand that, I'm just sick of my fellow pilots, colleagues, and friends getting shafted in this industry.
We need to make a statement that we are done being thrown into the fire every time there has to be cuts. WE are not the ones responsible for the failing of these companies.
I hope 100% of PNCL pilots vote NO to Pay Cuts. I hope that 100% of other regionals vote NO to Pay Cuts.
As some background I will probably be furloughed if PNCL declares BK. I understand that, I'm just sick of my fellow pilots, colleagues, and friends getting shafted in this industry.
"The airlines may control our lives, but they will never have... OUR CONCESSIONS!!!!!!"
12-19-2011, 09:16 PM
#5
Inverted
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: CL65 CA
Posts: 536
12-19-2011, 09:20 PM
#6
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: ERJ Right
Posts: 541
The American public has no idea how little the guy sitting in the right seat of that regional jet makes.
Every time I tell someone I'm an airline pilot they think I'm making $80k or more a year.
I sometimes wonder if ALPA does not want to upset mainline by showing the American public how little their pilots make. Is there a conflict of interest here?
Every time I tell someone I'm an airline pilot they think I'm making $80k or more a year.
I sometimes wonder if ALPA does not want to upset mainline by showing the American public how little their pilots make. Is there a conflict of interest here?
12-19-2011, 09:53 PM
#7
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: Doing what you do, for less.
Posts: 1,792
The American public has no idea how little the guy sitting in the right seat of that regional jet makes.
Every time I tell someone I'm an airline pilot they think I'm making $80k or more a year.
I sometimes wonder if ALPA does not want to upset mainline by showing the American public how little their pilots make. Is there a conflict of interest here?
Every time I tell someone I'm an airline pilot they think I'm making $80k or more a year.
I sometimes wonder if ALPA does not want to upset mainline by showing the American public how little their pilots make. Is there a conflict of interest here?
12-19-2011, 10:06 PM
#9
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2011
Position: NA
Posts: 110
Thats correct. I had a conversation with some narrow body captains at a major airline and they shared the same idea that you had. ALPA is for the B747-400 captains, and nobody else. If you have ever been in the airline industry, then you know how it works. Management may give a raise to someone, but then they take it from someone else. The little guy is the one subsidizing the big guy-allways.
12-20-2011, 04:11 AM
#10
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 40,105
This PNCL business simply highlights how the regional industry is DESIGNED to work. The 9E pilot group collectively pulls themselves out of the gutter to achieve a MODEST increase in compensation and a year later they are facing chapter 11.
Nobody is ever going to get ahead in the regionals...hell, they don't even want you to have a decent middle-class lifestyle. At age 40 when you have a mortgage, two cars, and two kids take a look around you...if more than ten percent of your fellow pilots at your regional look like you then ALL of you are living on borrowed time.
If too many people at your regional are making more than $25K they are going to either file BK or shift the flying to a younger crowd in the long run. There's no future at a regional unless 90% of your peers move on. They can afford a few six-figure grey beards...they need them to fill the training and management ranks, as well as to keep the young bucks under control.
Nobody is ever going to get ahead in the regionals...hell, they don't even want you to have a decent middle-class lifestyle. At age 40 when you have a mortgage, two cars, and two kids take a look around you...if more than ten percent of your fellow pilots at your regional look like you then ALL of you are living on borrowed time.
If too many people at your regional are making more than $25K they are going to either file BK or shift the flying to a younger crowd in the long run. There's no future at a regional unless 90% of your peers move on. They can afford a few six-figure grey beards...they need them to fill the training and management ranks, as well as to keep the young bucks under control.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
