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02-12-2012, 04:50 PM

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CAPIP1998

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Originally Posted by Fly782

Wow something you said makes sense for once. Delta should not have to pay for 9L you are correct. Further proof 11-09 should have been pure displacement.

Pure displacement would have resulted in hundreds of furloughs. I doubt that is what you want.

02-12-2012, 05:05 PM

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I love the Surejet rumor, havent heard that one yet. People must be forgetting that they just lost a few 700s for their crap performance.

Had nothing to do with performance, had everything to do with the rate Delta was willing to pay for the flying. Gojets bid the flying at a loss. That's business.

02-12-2012, 05:19 PM

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Had nothing to do with performance, had everything to do with the rate Delta was willing to pay for the flying. Gojets bid the flying at a loss. That's business.

Ah, the ol' Pinnacle Corp. math be damned approach. Seems to have worked well so far.

02-12-2012, 05:49 PM

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Not to defend go jet or anything. But hulas doesn't bid on flying for a loss. Just not his style. He'll pass up airplanes because he doesn't like something about it.

02-12-2012, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy

Fact. Delta has balked on the costs, and if you ask those 'in the know' they will tell you Delta does not want to pay for training costs associated with the Colgan side of things, because that's not Delta's business. We're talking about the closing of the BOS Saab base and all the Colgan prop guys jumping over. Delta only agreed to pay the training costs associated with the Mesaba Saabs being parked, and rightfully so.

Who knows what Delta agreed to pay. When a Delta Saab goes away and ripples down to cause movement among people on the Colgan side that is still a training cost related to a Delta Saab going away. I hope 9E gets every single last penny from Delta for the training mess we are in, even for Colgan training costs. Maybe some day it will be cheaper for Delta to just do the flying themselves (if it isn't already).

02-13-2012, 04:43 AM

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How much is US Airways or United paying for your training costs?How about the concept of your company paying for its own costs?

02-13-2012, 05:02 AM

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How much is US Airways or United paying for your training costs?How about the concept of your company paying for its own costs?

Rumor has it that Delta pushed us to get the contract done, and agreed to help with the increased cost because of the pressure they placed to get it done.

02-13-2012, 05:18 AM

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How much is US Airways or United paying for your training costs?How about the concept of your company paying for its own costs?

Delta is the one who agree to pay for the training cost, this was agreed upon selling Mesaba and getting rid of the Saab. If Pinnacle want to do something on the UAL side and get more or get rid of Q400 then agree we should pay for our own cost, or work out a deal with United. You want to blame us because your management ageee to pay for certain cost?