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Old 01-24-2012, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
in·san·i·ty
[in-san-i-tee]
- noun, plural-ties
1. the condition of being insane; a derangement of the mind
2. such unsoundness of mind as affects legal responsibility or capacity 3. (formerly) psychosis.
4. extreme folly; senselessness; foolhardiness

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My fault...I should have preceded my example with "what is a condition of insanity" or a "symptom". Thank you!
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:11 PM
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Union email tonight says that the company now wants 7% reduction in compensation for 1 year rather than 5% for an indefinite amount of time. Seems like a ploy to get us to bite on a bigger cut so our wages are already reduced before bankruptcy cuts them again.
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:13 PM
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Union email tonight says that the company now wants 7% reduction in compensation for 1 year rather than 5% for an indefinite amount of time. Seems like a ploy to get us to bite on a bigger cut so out wages are already reduced for BK.
With the mention of "7% for 1 year," leads me to believe they have negotiated some sort of snap back at the end of 1 year.

We will see...
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
With the mention of "7% for 1 year," leads me to believe they have negotiated some sort of snap back at the end of 1 year.

We will see...
Give me the 7% snap back, an additional 5% (plus my annual pay raise), and two extra weeks of vacation every year for the duration of the contract and I'll consider it.

Until then, NO!
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:29 PM
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Give me the 7% snap back, an additional 5% (plus my annual pay raise), and two extra weeks of vacation every year for the duration of the contract and I'll consider it.

Until then, NO!
Then they will file chap 11, void the "snapback" and you will be left with your 7% cut + a lil extra.

Pre-bankruptcy "snapbacks" are worthless except to lure gullible pilots.
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:32 PM
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no thanks on the 7%. We are going to bkrptcy. lets all stop pretending that it's avoidable.
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:45 PM
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I found the part about the ALPA attorney providing a briefing on bankruptcy particularly interesting. I hope we're wrong but it sounds like more bad news is on the way.
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:45 PM
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refer to my post on page 34 of this thread. substitute 5% for 7%.

Mr. Mekne, with all due respect, I can not afford to work for you under the pay you are proposing.

vote no.
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
With the mention of "7% for 1 year," leads me to believe they have negotiated some sort of snap back at the end of 1 year.
You realise the snapback won't happen, right? And it won't be for just 1 year...
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Old 01-24-2012, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
With the mention of "7% for 1 year," leads me to believe they have negotiated some sort of snap back at the end of 1 year.
You realise the snapback won't happen, right? And it won't be for just 1 year...
Sure thing, Dougie...
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