Pinnacle asking 7% from pilots
12-19-2011, 04:27 PM
#1
Permanent Ready Reserve
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: Upright and Locked
Posts: 969
Pinnacle asking 7% from pilots
There was a lot of information in my Dec. 8 message and Dec. 9 employee
call, so I wanted to elaborate on some of the details - specifically on
the cost-cutting steps we’re planning within our organization.
In addition to the pay freeze for non-union employees in 2012, I mentioned
on the call that we are going to ask our unionized employees to take a pay
cut. The amount we’re asking for is 5 percent of base pay, and if all
union groups agree, that pay cut will be applied to the non-union
employees as well. To reiterate what I said during that call, we will only
take this step if EVERY labor group agrees and the cuts can be made across
the board (union and non union). In addition, we will only take this step
if our partners and stakeholders are able to provide the modifications
we’re seeking.
If we do move forward with pay cuts, there are no plans at this time to
reinstate the 5 percent at a later date. I won’t know if we will take this
step until we hear back from all of our labor unions and stakeholders, so
I can’t speculate on when a possible pay cut might take place. We’ve
shared extensive information with union leadership, on a confidential
basis, to further explain the business necessity for these cuts. I’ll
communicate the outcome of our discussions as soon as we have a decision.
I’ve also received questions about what additional concessions we’re
asking from our pilots. In addition to the 5 percent pay cut, the most
material thing we’re asking for is a more manageable implementation
agreement for the pilot integrated seniority list (ISL). Due to ongoing
discussions with ALPA, I can’t go into detail, but it’s an important part
of our plans.
Regarding next steps with our organizational restructuring, the officer
team has been asked to take a hard look at each of their departments to
see where further changes can be made – from director level all the way
down to front-line. The overriding question being asked of our officers
is, “What positions are required to support our operations in light of the
current business environment?”
I committed to having these organizational restructuring decisions made by
Jan. 31, and if we’re able to work through this process sooner we will.
Completing this step quickly is not only essential to achieve the
necessary savings to address our challenges, but it’s also required to
minimize disruption to you and to our operations.
I realize at this point there are more questions than answers, and I know
that’s unsettling. I’ve committed to keeping you informed along the way as
best I can, and this message is one step in that process.
As I said on the call, one of our biggest leverage points with our
partners right now is our strong operating performance. As tough as I know
things are right now, the most important thing everybody can do to help is
to keep your focus on running a safe, reliable operation.
All the best,
Sean
To quote a line from one of the greatest movies ever... "F*#k you, pay me."
call, so I wanted to elaborate on some of the details - specifically on
the cost-cutting steps we’re planning within our organization.
In addition to the pay freeze for non-union employees in 2012, I mentioned
on the call that we are going to ask our unionized employees to take a pay
cut. The amount we’re asking for is 5 percent of base pay, and if all
union groups agree, that pay cut will be applied to the non-union
employees as well. To reiterate what I said during that call, we will only
take this step if EVERY labor group agrees and the cuts can be made across
the board (union and non union). In addition, we will only take this step
if our partners and stakeholders are able to provide the modifications
we’re seeking.
If we do move forward with pay cuts, there are no plans at this time to
reinstate the 5 percent at a later date. I won’t know if we will take this
step until we hear back from all of our labor unions and stakeholders, so
I can’t speculate on when a possible pay cut might take place. We’ve
shared extensive information with union leadership, on a confidential
basis, to further explain the business necessity for these cuts. I’ll
communicate the outcome of our discussions as soon as we have a decision.
I’ve also received questions about what additional concessions we’re
asking from our pilots. In addition to the 5 percent pay cut, the most
material thing we’re asking for is a more manageable implementation
agreement for the pilot integrated seniority list (ISL). Due to ongoing
discussions with ALPA, I can’t go into detail, but it’s an important part
of our plans.
Regarding next steps with our organizational restructuring, the officer
team has been asked to take a hard look at each of their departments to
see where further changes can be made – from director level all the way
down to front-line. The overriding question being asked of our officers
is, “What positions are required to support our operations in light of the
current business environment?”
I committed to having these organizational restructuring decisions made by
Jan. 31, and if we’re able to work through this process sooner we will.
Completing this step quickly is not only essential to achieve the
necessary savings to address our challenges, but it’s also required to
minimize disruption to you and to our operations.
I realize at this point there are more questions than answers, and I know
that’s unsettling. I’ve committed to keeping you informed along the way as
best I can, and this message is one step in that process.
As I said on the call, one of our biggest leverage points with our
partners right now is our strong operating performance. As tough as I know
things are right now, the most important thing everybody can do to help is
to keep your focus on running a safe, reliable operation.
All the best,
Sean
To quote a line from one of the greatest movies ever... "F*#k you, pay me."
12-19-2011, 04:47 PM
#4
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: Assistant Greens Keeper
Posts: 1,011
There was a lot of information in my Dec. 8 message and Dec. 9 employee
call, so I wanted to elaborate on some of the details - specifically on
the cost-cutting steps we’re planning within our organization.
In addition to the pay freeze for non-union employees in 2012, I mentioned
on the call that we are going to ask our unionized employees to take a pay
cut. The amount we’re asking for is 5 percent of base pay, and if all
union groups agree, that pay cut will be applied to the non-union
employees as well. To reiterate what I said during that call, we will only
take this step if EVERY labor group agrees and the cuts can be made across
the board (union and non union). In addition, we will only take this step
if our partners and stakeholders are able to provide the modifications
we’re seeking.
If we do move forward with pay cuts, there are no plans at this time to
reinstate the 5 percent at a later date. I won’t know if we will take this
step until we hear back from all of our labor unions and stakeholders, so
I can’t speculate on when a possible pay cut might take place. We’ve
shared extensive information with union leadership, on a confidential
basis, to further explain the business necessity for these cuts. I’ll
communicate the outcome of our discussions as soon as we have a decision.
I’ve also received questions about what additional concessions we’re
asking from our pilots. In addition to the 5 percent pay cut, the most
material thing we’re asking for is a more manageable implementation
agreement for the pilot integrated seniority list (ISL). Due to ongoing
discussions with ALPA, I can’t go into detail, but it’s an important part
of our plans.
Regarding next steps with our organizational restructuring, the officer
team has been asked to take a hard look at each of their departments to
see where further changes can be made – from director level all the way
down to front-line. The overriding question being asked of our officers
is, “What positions are required to support our operations in light of the
current business environment?”
I committed to having these organizational restructuring decisions made by
Jan. 31, and if we’re able to work through this process sooner we will.
Completing this step quickly is not only essential to achieve the
necessary savings to address our challenges, but it’s also required to
minimize disruption to you and to our operations.
I realize at this point there are more questions than answers, and I know
that’s unsettling. I’ve committed to keeping you informed along the way as
best I can, and this message is one step in that process.
As I said on the call, one of our biggest leverage points with our
partners right now is our strong operating performance. As tough as I know
things are right now, the most important thing everybody can do to help is
to keep your focus on running a safe, reliable operation.
All the best,
Sean
call, so I wanted to elaborate on some of the details - specifically on
the cost-cutting steps we’re planning within our organization.
In addition to the pay freeze for non-union employees in 2012, I mentioned
on the call that we are going to ask our unionized employees to take a pay
cut. The amount we’re asking for is 5 percent of base pay, and if all
union groups agree, that pay cut will be applied to the non-union
employees as well. To reiterate what I said during that call, we will only
take this step if EVERY labor group agrees and the cuts can be made across
the board (union and non union). In addition, we will only take this step
if our partners and stakeholders are able to provide the modifications
we’re seeking.
If we do move forward with pay cuts, there are no plans at this time to
reinstate the 5 percent at a later date. I won’t know if we will take this
step until we hear back from all of our labor unions and stakeholders, so
I can’t speculate on when a possible pay cut might take place. We’ve
shared extensive information with union leadership, on a confidential
basis, to further explain the business necessity for these cuts. I’ll
communicate the outcome of our discussions as soon as we have a decision.
I’ve also received questions about what additional concessions we’re
asking from our pilots. In addition to the 5 percent pay cut, the most
material thing we’re asking for is a more manageable implementation
agreement for the pilot integrated seniority list (ISL). Due to ongoing
discussions with ALPA, I can’t go into detail, but it’s an important part
of our plans.
Regarding next steps with our organizational restructuring, the officer
team has been asked to take a hard look at each of their departments to
see where further changes can be made – from director level all the way
down to front-line. The overriding question being asked of our officers
is, “What positions are required to support our operations in light of the
current business environment?”
I committed to having these organizational restructuring decisions made by
Jan. 31, and if we’re able to work through this process sooner we will.
Completing this step quickly is not only essential to achieve the
necessary savings to address our challenges, but it’s also required to
minimize disruption to you and to our operations.
I realize at this point there are more questions than answers, and I know
that’s unsettling. I’ve committed to keeping you informed along the way as
best I can, and this message is one step in that process.
As I said on the call, one of our biggest leverage points with our
partners right now is our strong operating performance. As tough as I know
things are right now, the most important thing everybody can do to help is
to keep your focus on running a safe, reliable operation.
All the best,
Sean
Lets ask for a 10% raise in return
WE GIVE THEM NOTHING... what balls they have asking us to take pay cuts when they keep paying the crooks that caused this mess.
12-19-2011, 04:49 PM
#6
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2009
Posts: 519
All this so PT and DS can keep lining their pockets while they caused this mess and continue to get paid for doing nothing...
Lets ask for a 10% raise in return
WE GIVE THEM NOTHING... what balls they have asking us to take pay cuts when they keep paying the crooks that caused this mess.
Lets ask for a 10% raise in return
WE GIVE THEM NOTHING... what balls they have asking us to take pay cuts when they keep paying the crooks that caused this mess.
12-19-2011, 04:58 PM
#7
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2011
Posts: 495
12-19-2011, 05:08 PM
#9
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Right Seat 744
Posts: 946
Just finished reading, "Flying The Line Volume II". Have to say that first post sounded just like Lorenzo & Continental in '83, and Ferris/ Ferg & United '85.
Those of you who haven't read the book, highly recommend it if you plan on staying in this "career" field.
Those of you who haven't read the book, highly recommend it if you plan on staying in this "career" field.
12-19-2011, 05:09 PM
#10
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,341
This is a joke. He can't even humor us and tell us we might get the pay back. If we are being asked to take a permanent pay cut, I say let the BK court do it. At least we will get a few more months of normal pay.
Although most people on here are against any concession, I have my doubts we will prevail. So far, our MEC has not given any sign that they are listening to us. I would not be surprised if they cave based on their "privileged" information given to them by the opposing body that wants them to agree to a pay cut.
Also, I heard a captain in the van speak for 5 minutes about how horrible the idea of asking us for a pay cut to fund golden parachutes is. Then he claims that he is willing to take a 10% pay cut until the company is in solid finical figures again. 10% and a promise! YGTSM!
Although most people on here are against any concession, I have my doubts we will prevail. So far, our MEC has not given any sign that they are listening to us. I would not be surprised if they cave based on their "privileged" information given to them by the opposing body that wants them to agree to a pay cut.
Also, I heard a captain in the van speak for 5 minutes about how horrible the idea of asking us for a pay cut to fund golden parachutes is. Then he claims that he is willing to take a 10% pay cut until the company is in solid finical figures again. 10% and a promise! YGTSM!
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Lbell911
Regional
23
04-22-2012 10:33 AM
