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Old 10-20-2011, 04:25 PM
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Seriously? You guys are sooooo far from being released you can't even see it from here. While many of us can sympathize with your frustration, having been stuck on the bottom rung of the airline career ladder because of the age 65 rule and a generally bad economy, but a STRIKE VOTE to show you're upset? Really?

Your dysfunctional union stalled the negotiations for years while they ousted the last crooks and then tried to grab our seniority. You file for mediation after the talks resumed for 3 lousy months and expect the mediator to release you because the company won't give you retro pay on JetBlue 190 rates? Really? You couldn't have timed this mediation worse if you had tried.

"Vote yes for this if you support your Exco and negotiating committee."
Not the point of a strike vote.

"Vote yes if you feel it is time for us to have a contract."
Or just hold your breath until the mediator gives you what you want.

"Vote yes if you feel you are under compensated."
You work for a commuter. It's part of the business plan to pay you badly. You quitting and moving onto the majors is the desired effect.

"Vote yes if you feel we need a change in our scheduling language."
See holding your breath above. Maybe if you hadn't alienated the FAPA guys you could have gotten some help with this.

"Vote yes if you feel our vacancy language is inadequate."
Didn't 357 lose an arbitration over this one?

"Vote yes if you feel our scope language needs modification."
I thought you traded everything under the sun in 2003 for industry leading scope? Now it needs modification? Irony from a group who are employed because of circumventing other pilots' scope language.

2:25 into this sums it up perfectly Bluto's Big Speech Scene - Animal House Movie (1978) - HD - YouTube

I've got my popcorn ready.
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Old 10-20-2011, 04:42 PM
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"Vote yes if you feel you are under compensated."
You work for a commuter. It's part of the business plan to pay you badly. You quitting and moving onto the majors is the desired effect.
You sound like a management lackey...
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Old 10-20-2011, 05:27 PM
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Old 10-20-2011, 05:35 PM
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Look guys, the F9/RAH topic is sensitive enough as it is without stirring the pot. I have a feeling this discussion will spiral out of control, rather quickly. I hope you all will prove me wrong. Please keep it constructive and civil.
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Old 10-20-2011, 05:36 PM
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Dude, get a life. You must feel threatened or something. You don't have anything better to do than spew this bs here. This place needs someone to step up and looks like your not the one. I'd sure be sending out my resumes if I were you.
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WOW! Thanks for even considering backing up fellow pilots for better contracts and a better future......
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Originally Posted by F9 Driver
Seriously? You guys are sooooo far from being released you can't even see it from here. While many of us can sympathize with your frustration, having been stuck on the bottom rung of the airline career ladder because of the age 65 rule and a generally bad economy, but a STRIKE VOTE to show you're upset? Really?

Your dysfunctional union stalled the negotiations for years while they ousted the last crooks and then tried to grab our seniority. You file for mediation after the talks resumed for 3 lousy months and expect the mediator to release you because the company won't give you retro pay on JetBlue 190 rates? Really? You couldn't have timed this mediation worse if you had tried.

"Vote yes for this if you support your Exco and negotiating committee."
Not the point of a strike vote.

"Vote yes if you feel it is time for us to have a contract."
Or just hold your breath until the mediator gives you what you want.

"Vote yes if you feel you are under compensated."
You work for a commuter. It's part of the business plan to pay you badly. You quitting and moving onto the majors is the desired effect.

"Vote yes if you feel we need a change in our scheduling language."
See holding your breath above. Maybe if you hadn't alienated the FAPA guys you could have gotten some help with this.

"Vote yes if you feel our vacancy language is inadequate."
Didn't 357 lose an arbitration over this one?

"Vote yes if you feel our scope language needs modification."
I thought you traded everything under the sun in 2003 for industry leading scope? Now it needs modification? Irony from a group who are employed because of circumventing other pilots' scope language.

2:25 into this sums it up perfectly Bluto's Big Speech Scene - Animal House Movie (1978) - HD - YouTube

I've got my popcorn ready.
^^^Native RAH pilot flamebait.^^^ Leave this guy alone. He already has popcorn for his colon. He just loves to watch the youngin's swing back. He's just a mean man who needs a mommy.

Move on and make the moderator happy.
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Old 10-20-2011, 07:20 PM
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Wayne??? Is that you? Did another F9 pilot give you their login?

In all seriousness, you have no clue as to how mediation has gone. Instead of ignorantly criticizing, why don't you support your fellow pilots.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:13 PM
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He's just mad because we made FAPA out like a fat kid in dodge ball. We will press on and if the company continues to ignore us we will do what needs to be done.
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Originally Posted by LoitaHills
He's just a mean man who needs a mommy.

So F9 Driver is this guy?
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