Wall St. Journal: FAA Boosts CoPilot Training
10-01-2011, 01:46 AM
#23
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Yep, great. Just think how this is so much better than requiring more than twice as many hours and an ATP.
10-01-2011, 09:43 AM
#24
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If you excpected different from Babbitt, then you did not know him at all. The downfall of mainline pilots started with him at the helm of ALPA and has continued down since then.. He helped screw regional pilots with minimal support at contract negotiations as everyone else has.
10-02-2011, 08:10 AM
#25
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If you excpected different from Babbitt, then you did not know him at all. The downfall of mainline pilots started with him at the helm of ALPA and has continued down since then.. He helped screw regional pilots with minimal support at contract negotiations as everyone else has.
10-02-2011, 03:26 PM
#27
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Guys,
Lets get one thing straight - 700 or 750 hours is better than the current 250 requirement. What blows, is that ALPA had the opportunity to push for 1500 hours and caved. What a concept, a Airline Transport Rating to work as an Airline Pilot.
ALPA totally blew this one. ALPA always say they are valuable because of their political clout, yet on every watershed issue they say, "We couldn't stop it so its better to get onboard and have a say in it."
Anyone member the age 65 fiasco? Just think, less than 3 years until the first age 65 discrimination lawsuit.
Scoop
Lets get one thing straight - 700 or 750 hours is better than the current 250 requirement. What blows, is that ALPA had the opportunity to push for 1500 hours and caved. What a concept, a Airline Transport Rating to work as an Airline Pilot.
ALPA totally blew this one. ALPA always say they are valuable because of their political clout, yet on every watershed issue they say, "We couldn't stop it so its better to get onboard and have a say in it."
Anyone member the age 65 fiasco? Just think, less than 3 years until the first age 65 discrimination lawsuit.
Scoop
10-02-2011, 03:45 PM
#28
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There is no pilot shortage. Only a shortage of pilots willing to work for $24000/ yr.
And a shortage of experienced pilots willing to work for Emirates, at high pay rates
And a shortage of experienced pilots willing to work for Qatar.
And a shortage of experienced pilots willing to work for KAL.
And a shortage of experienced pilots willing to fly as contract pilots in Japan on the 767.
And a shortage of experienced pilots willing to work in Vietnam.
And a shortage of experienced pilots willing to work in India.
And a shortage of student pilots with the right to work in the US.
etc., etc.
cliff
HNL
10-02-2011, 03:55 PM
#29
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As for the topic at hand, 700 hours is definitely a lot closer to where it should be, imo. But I don't get all of the love for university programs. I work for a university program with a direct hire agreement, and I don't believe the quality of pilots here are any better than some of part 61 programs I've trained and taught at. I've never in my life seen such a coddled group of students/pilots. Its scary that these kids are in the right seat of a rj with only a commercial license and no absolutely no time past that (and in most cases no CFI ratings), a bunch of these kids have never flown through a cloud. Those are the kind of pilots that give a bad name to the sub-1500 hour hires.
10-02-2011, 04:02 PM
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