cantwin

How junior is EMB MIA? Is it more junior than ATR MIA? Where can new hires expect to be sent initially?

Thanks in advance.

lakehouse

Eagle life thread touches on this often. We can only give you HINDSIGHT, since it is a new base for the EMB. LATELY a ton of new hires have gone there, since people already here typically could not uproot their lives to move there. HOWEVER going forward, once filled, which they are close to do doing, it might become more senior, because its better than living in NY/ORD (arguably).

RIGHT NOW EMB MIA is more junior than ATR MIA, but it is only because they just opened the EMB base. Once things stabilize that will change. If you go there as a new hire on the EMB, you will be on the bottom of a fairly junior pile, since 50-75% of the FOs there have been hired Mar 2010 or sooner.

cantwin

Thank you.. all good information. I'm just trying to figure out if they had given me the option of EMB, CRJ or ATR which one I would want. I live within driving distance from MIA which is one of the reasons why I prefer Eagle over many others.

lakehouse

Let some of the other guys chime in, I am still newer. But the EMB base is really junior, so if you get hired now, you would be the bottom a slow moving pile. Might be wise to do the ATR for a year in MIA, and get off RSV faster. The CRJ isnt in MIA, and trust me, YOU WANT TO LIVE IN BASE!!!!! So go with something in MIA. Everything changes so much, so fast, esp here, its hard to say. We also have a ton of guys who will go to AA, so movement here is dependent on that as well. They had like 120 guys retire 2 days ago, so we will see what that does for EGL over the next few months.

Let the guys who arent as new chime in, they will give you some good wisdom.

cantwin

Do you think that if I go ATR, I would get stuck in San Juan?

lakehouse

At Eagle, when you get to class, the planes come with the base. So it will be ATR MIA OR ATR SJU, but it wont be ATR to find out later on what your base is.

PilotJ3

SJU is a good place to live, for sure the rent is cheaper than MIA, ORD, NY, LAX, DFW. lol!!!

The commute to MIA is easy, but I don't think you'll get stuck in SJU, is shrinking slowly.

Wingman32

hey guys,
I ll be choosing the base in a week or so... I am not sure what a junior vs. senior base means in regards of qol for a new hire. In other words is junior base a good or bad thing for a newbie. thanx

lakehouse

Well, it means how long will you be on RSV. Everything depends on the people above you. If you go somewhere everyone wants to be, you wont move fast, but if you go somewhere that no one wants to be and everyone is leaving after they can get another base, then you will move up faster.

I think LGA EMJ is about to become a very junior base in about 6 months, so if I was new I would consider it. JFK and MIA EMJ have been very junior lately, but I do not think it will last. You do not want to go somewhere that WAS junior for awhile but now people are staying, because they will be there for awhile, so you wont see much movement. Both CRJ bases have also been junior since we got some new ones, and they were hiring into it like crazy, however they have staffed them, so I do not think I would want the CRJ, esp the NY side. Thats all I can speak for, do not know much westward.

FL450

I don't know about cheaper than the other bases SJU is expensive but definitely fun.