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Old 09-11-2011, 03:07 PM
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Upgrade mins are 2500TT/1000 with the company per the contract

The Mesaba certifcate will be retired once all the DTW/MSP/LGA Saabs are retired. There are no "Mesaba Saabs" since they're all leased from Saab Leasing by Delta. There's also no guarantee that they will replace any former Colgan Saab.
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Old 09-11-2011, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by atpwannabe
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c) Once all of the consolidations and base closings take place, where do you think new hires will be going whether they get the Q4 or SB340?


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All new hires with 9L, 9E, will go to the Saab( so i've been told). I know IAH and IAD need Saab FO's. The displaced Saab FO's in Boston and LGA will probably go for the Jet since the last "Q" class was in April which means the Q has very limited openings right now.
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Old 09-11-2011, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate
All new hires with 9L, 9E, will go to the Saab( so i've been told). I know IAH and IAD need Saab FO's. The displaced Saab FO's in Boston and LGA will probably go for the Jet since the last "Q" class was in April which means the Q has very limited openings right now.
If you are displaced, you can go anywhere your seniority will hold.
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Old 09-11-2011, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate
All new hires with 9L, 9E, will go to the Saab( so i've been told). I know IAH and IAD need Saab FO's. The displaced Saab FO's in Boston and LGA will probably go for the Jet since the last "Q" class was in April which means the Q has very limited openings right now.
All new hires go to whatever positions are left after a vacancy is bid on by pilots that are on property. The saab is the lowest paying equipement with the new rates and will probably stay junior for that reason.

Anyone displaced from a position (LGA, BOS, MEM, DTW, MSP Saab for example) can hold whatever their seniority allows and they will subsequently "bump" another pilot out of that position. In the most recent realignment a number of junior 9E FOs were displaced from the rj to the Saab.

I know you haven't been around all that long yet rotate, but make sure you're feeding the new guys accurate info because it will spread like a wild fire whether it's right or wrong. Rule #76, no excuses play like a champion.
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What's interesting is many of the NH's for 9E that are now displaced to the Saab don't have the time requirements to fly it. Joys of the bridge program....
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Old 09-11-2011, 07:09 PM
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What's interesting is many of the NH's for 9E that are now displaced to the Saab don't have the time requirements to fly it. Joys of the bridge program....
So they gonna get canned?
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Originally Posted by spank
Rule #76, no excuses play like a champion.
Noted.

Regarding the Saab FO's in BOS, they can't bump any "Q" guy/gal because they were hired after the "Q" wave. So, I would think their seniority will be much lower than a "Q" guy, right?

Also, I was told that 9E can't get enough pilots. So, from a pure $ standpoint, I would think many would bid the RJs.
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So they gonna get canned?
No plans have been made yet. Hopefully we can come to an agreement without sending them packing. The hardest part is that they've already left their old jobs, so presumably it would be quite difficult to go back and build more time.
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate
Noted.

Regarding the Saab FO's in BOS, they can't bump any "Q" guy/gal because they were hired after the "Q" wave. So, I would think their seniority will be much lower than a "Q" guy, right?

Also, I was told that 9E can't get enough pilots. So, from a pure $ standpoint, I would think many would bid the RJs.
The bottom half of the BOS FOs are planning on going to the jet because you are right none of us can hold the Q. The last Q class was 6 of ours class but the pilots SR to us got the Q. It will be interesting to see what happens. The few top guys I have talked to said they will go to the Q.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CAPIP1998
No plans have been made yet. Hopefully we can come to an agreement without sending them packing. The hardest part is that they've already left their old jobs, so presumably it would be quite difficult to go back and build more time.
If anyone loses their job because they're sent to the saab and don't have the time for it I think we should strike... period...

BTW all new hires are going to IAD SF3 for the forseeable future...
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